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Contest stats and Discussion - Part 126
From: dragoontheguy | Posted: 5/18/2005 12:56:51 PM | Message Detail
What I'm wondering is where all this sudden support is coming from. I'm not going to pressume that any cheating is going on, but it's sort of wierd that MH has started opening his lead up so quickly in the last bit.
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From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 5/18/2005 12:58:25 PM | Message Detail
I did call that he would start a massive gain at about 3 EST actually. It's the after-school vote. Master Hand and Master Chief enjoy many similar benefits:

A) Mainstream appeal.
B) "Master" in their name.
C) My supporting them.

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From: Starion | Posted: 5/18/2005 12:58:37 PM | Message Detail
Schools out at this time in the East.
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From: BeTheMan | Posted: 5/18/2005 12:58:55 PM | Message Detail
My, oh my...this might have just re-opened up the contest for some of those one loss folks. It won't do me much good, seeing as I had Sin > Kuja in the second round (which actually seems like it would have happened now...grr), but it makes things pretty interesting.
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From: dragoontheguy | Posted: 5/18/2005 1:01:12 PM | Message Detail
Schools out at this time in the East.

I've been out for over an hour though and I live in eastern time. Or did you mean east coast?
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From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 5/18/2005 1:02:09 PM | Message Detail
He means east coast, and he is right. I just got home.

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From: andaca | Posted: 5/18/2005 1:24:56 PM | Message Detail
God, MH is monstrous in the day time...he's picking up 70-80 votes every 5 minute update...cn's updater looks insane right now.

You know, I still think that Kuja>Sin. MH could quite easily be iconic for SSBM, and it wouldnt be that surprising to me - pretty much anyone who has played the game would recognize him, and he is more or less unique to that game as well. That would explain why DK and such dont seem to get quite as huge of a boost - MH is much more representative of SSBM, and would get the support from it where DK wouldnt. Even the people who dont like/use DK still run into MH while playing SSBM.

Plus, I would love to see a person i didnt expect to get out of the first round make it to the elite eight.
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From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 5/18/2005 1:26:29 PM | Message Detail
If MH gets past Robotnik, this match will become the most bittersweet memory of the contest I have.

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From: andaca | Posted: 5/18/2005 1:28:13 PM | Message Detail
398 votes in the last half hour.

X freaking D.
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From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 5/18/2005 1:29:26 PM | Message Detail
My alt might make the leaderboard after this match is over. :)

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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/18/2005 1:30:10 PM | Message Detail
This is both hilarious and pathetic.

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/18/2005 1:35:40 PM | Message Detail
You know, I still think that Kuja>Sin. MH could quite easily be iconic for SSBM, and it wouldnt be that surprising to me - pretty much anyone who has played the game would recognize him, and he is more or less unique to that game as well. That would explain why DK and such dont seem to get quite as huge of a boost - MH is much more representative of SSBM, and would get the support from it where DK wouldnt.

A very good paraphrase of what my argument's been all along, except I think Sin > Kuja. Even though the game is loved for its multi-player, there is no way people just ignore the single-player like so many have mentioned before. Most of the secret characters involve you going through the single player, which usually involves Master Hand. Ness was a secret character in SSB (where I think you had to beat Master Hand with everyone before you got him...not sure) and nothing special in SSBM, while Master Hand was both unique and fun to fight at the end (though the fun part's debatable, probably).

Even the people who dont like/use DK still run into MH while playing SSBM.

Also what I said, which now makes M. Bison look better against Diablo.


With all of this said, I don't think MH > Ness or DK.
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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 5/18/2005 1:35:50 PM | Message Detail
Anyone still think that there's a Square villain out there stronger than Kefka and not named Sephiroth?
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From: cyko | Posted: 5/18/2005 1:36:33 PM | Message Detail
i never been so simultaneously vindicated and depressed.......

*sits down and cries in the corner*

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From: jonthomson | Posted: 5/18/2005 1:36:43 PM | Message Detail
I nip off for a quick game of Starcraft and the lead increases by 600. Unbelievable.
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From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 5/18/2005 1:36:54 PM | Message Detail
This is both hilarious and pathetic.

That's the last time I take advice from you and Leonhart. "Crazy" pick of Master Hand winning... pft.

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From: andaca | Posted: 5/18/2005 1:37:30 PM | Message Detail
Anyone still think that there's a Square villain out there stronger than Kefka and not named Sephiroth?

Yes, Kuja.

And yes, I know what that implies.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/18/2005 1:38:07 PM | Message Detail
Seymour or Seifer are the two best chances left if there IS one...though, while unlikely, Sin and/or Kuja could still be stronger. Seymour and Seifer's the only two I'd give a chance though, and I'd likely take Kefka against both of them.
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From: arkenaga | Posted: 5/18/2005 1:38:53 PM | Message Detail
I think this is the first time I've actually seen the board so pissed off at the results of a poll. Or maybe it's just several extremely pissed off people.

What an interesting day!

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From: FFantasyFX | Posted: 5/18/2005 1:39:23 PM | Message Detail
As one of I believe only two people who had Master Hand winning his 4-pack in Slowflake's Board Odds Project, I would like to thank you all for convincing me that MH was a total joke, causing me to make my only last second change before the contest.

Oh what the heck, I can't be bitter. My bracket was shot to hell anyway when Diablo beat Ridley. Go Master Hand! ^_^
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/18/2005 1:39:30 PM | Message Detail
You know what would have been fun? With all of the memories around SC/SSBM, if MH had to face Diablo in the next round.
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From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 5/18/2005 1:40:07 PM | Message Detail

That's the last time I take advice from you and Leonhart. "Crazy" pick of Master Hand winning... pft.

You actually let Leonhart convince you to change a pick? Why do you guys do that? You know you are going to end up kicking yourself over something if you let other people dictate what you do.

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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/18/2005 1:40:07 PM | Message Detail
Kuja 48% 20433
Master Hand 52% 22132
TOTAL VOTES 42565

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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 5/18/2005 1:40:14 PM | Message Detail
In other news, I'm never trusting Square characters again!!!! You know when you have to ask other sites to vote for Square that it sucks. :-(

So, you're finally realizing something I've told you for how long now?

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/18/2005 1:41:50 PM | Message Detail
The board can get ya sometimes: Kefka over Crono and Hayabusa over Sora, for examples.
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From: cyko | Posted: 5/18/2005 1:42:11 PM | Message Detail
I think this is the first time I've actually seen the board so pissed off at the results of a poll. Or maybe it's just several extremely pissed off people.


i am extremely pissed off because (as i said before), i was behind Master Hand, but changed it to Kuja after flashbacks of how Master Cheif bit me in the rear by 7 votes. then, when i decided to change it back to Master Hand on the last day, my internet went down for the entire afternoon/evening and i was unable to change my bracket........

*cries some more*

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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 5/18/2005 1:42:23 PM | Message Detail
Whether or not Magus is a villain is entirely up to the player and/or how you choose to go through the game.

Magus is never a villain at any point nor should he ever be looked at as one.

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From: andaca | Posted: 5/18/2005 1:42:55 PM | Message Detail
One Hundred. Twenty. Four.

In Five minutes.
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From: transience | Posted: 5/18/2005 1:43:31 PM | Message Detail
...wow. MH has gotten 58.3% of the votes in the last hour. this could be 55/45 before we know it.

if i could redo my bracket, MH > robotnik, for sure.

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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/18/2005 1:45:18 PM | Message Detail
From: andaca | Posted: 5/18/2005 4:42:55 PM | Message Detail
One Hundred. Twenty. Four.

In Five minutes.


Okay, that's just a little bit ridiculous.

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From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 5/18/2005 1:45:37 PM | Message Detail
Hm.... After this match, can someone make a graph of how the vote income went and compare it to a few others?

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From: Starion | Posted: 5/18/2005 1:45:59 PM | Message Detail
Grrrrr, I had MH beating Sin. The Sin loss wasn't too bad but I also picked Ridley to go far.
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From: GrapefruitKing | Posted: 5/18/2005 1:46:10 PM | Message Detail
MH now has a 1781 votes lead

wow




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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/18/2005 1:47:21 PM | Message Detail
2005-05-18 13:40:00 20442 22149 48.00% 52.00% 1707
2005-05-18 13:35:00 20306 21889 48.12% 51.88% 1583

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From: dragoontheguy | Posted: 5/18/2005 1:49:43 PM | Message Detail
MH has increased his lead by 350 in 20 minutes. This seems a bit wrong, I think there is a chance that cheating is going on.
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From: IcEpIcKRSF | Posted: 5/18/2005 1:50:16 PM | Message Detail
Someone linked a SSB board to the poll. Any other big vote increases are the cause of that.
From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 5/18/2005 1:51:07 PM | Message Detail
Someone linked a SSB board to the poll. Any other big vote increases are the cause of that.

Link?

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From: Tediz247 | Posted: 5/18/2005 1:52:33 PM | Message Detail
smashboards.com doesn't have anything about it, and I can't think of any other big SSBM fansite.
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From: IcEpIcKRSF | Posted: 5/18/2005 1:53:28 PM | Message Detail
Well there's one at IGN in some random thread, but that board is currently going slow. So unless there's a lot of lurkers there it's another website.
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/18/2005 1:55:36 PM | Message Detail
Guys, what board is gonna get as many votes for MH as a front page link on diabloii.net is gonna get for Diablo, or a front-page link on halo.bungie.org is gonna get for Master Chief? We already know Square is generally weaker during the day-time hours anyways...

...now, granted, even this is takin' me by surprise (and I thought MH'd win by 52%, maybe a lil' less), but I think it's completely legit.
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From: IcEpIcKRSF | Posted: 5/18/2005 1:57:39 PM | Message Detail
If you really want to see if there is cheating going on, have someone do a poll on the IGN FF board to see who has voted. Unless this really is a mass after school vote.
From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 5/18/2005 1:57:52 PM | Message Detail
I'll decide after I see some graphs... Right now I think there might be a bit of cheating but I usually am not home for close matches at this time, so I don't know how fast votes pour in.

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From: dragoontheguy | Posted: 5/18/2005 1:59:19 PM | Message Detail
I wouldn't mind putting together a few graphs, it's not like I have anything better to do right now. Can someone suggest what matches I should compare it to?
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/18/2005 2:00:32 PM | Message Detail
Who cheats to this degree in a first-round match though, especially when MH was slowly but surely building a lead before this? It just so happens that the cheated started a lil' after the after-school votes came in, which we had already figured would go to MH anyways. GREAT timing to accuse the glove of cheating then.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/18/2005 2:01:28 PM | Message Detail
Compare it to FFX/SSBM and Vivi/DK if you have the info on you to do it.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/18/2005 2:02:48 PM | Message Detail
By the way, MH broke 2,000. Match, game, and winner.
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From: dragoontheguy | Posted: 5/18/2005 2:03:20 PM | Message Detail
I was thinking it would be more useful to compare to some of this years matches, since it would better represent the votes in case some sort of dramatic change was made in voting patterns, but I could do that to. I think sc2k5.com has all the info I'd need right?
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From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 5/18/2005 2:04:34 PM | Message Detail
It does.

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From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 5/18/2005 2:05:20 PM | Message Detail
Okay, maybe I'm stupid, but can someone please clarify something for me.

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=21044523

In that topic, do I actually sound like I'm whining and gloating, or not?

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From: Just Some Person | Posted: 5/18/2005 2:06:43 PM | Message Detail
34.67% had Master Hand winning.

A guess, if you will.

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