GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 384
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/10/2006 5:45:48 PM | message detail |
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Man, by what you guys are talking about, anyone below Mario might just barely break 30% on both of these characters. >> --- Crono vs. Falcon / Bracket: Crono / Vote: Falcon (26/28) Tomorrow / Bracket: Bowser / Vote: Bowser |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/10/2006 5:46:05 PM | message detail |
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Oh man... it's nice to know all this Bowser > Crono talk is gonna
get *****-slapped once tomorrow hits. No one will be spouting that crap
when Leon makes Bowser net a measly 56.5%. Book it baby, book it. Of course I hope I'm horribly wrong and Bowser gets 75%, because Crono sucks and would be the perfect person to ruin the noble nine! --- Portugal. The Man Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| therealmnm | Posted 10/10/2006 5:46:08 PM | message detail |
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isn't the explanation for uber-Link in 2k4 usually the GC
collector's edition disc? if that can boost Link over Cloud like that,
I'd think a full fledged remake on a new system would be a lot, lot
more. especially for a character that's living off one or two games. That's the explanation for people who believe that the picture plays no difference in a match, but still want to find some factor to attribute it to. How many people do you really think got the Collector's edition and thought, "wow, this Link person sure does kick ass". LoZ already has a high playership rate. On the other hand, the first Twilight Princess trailer rocked the industry. Everybody was talking about it. And I maintain that was the reason for Link's "boost" in 2k4... not just that he didn't have a Wind Waker picture. The pics were just there to represent that newfound Link hype. I still maintain that Link doesn't beat Ganon as bad were they to have a rematch (Ganon gets at least 15%). That match happened to use the EXACT Link image that represented that trailer. I'm sure it put the trailer in everyone's minds when they voted in that match. Of course, I'm probably the only one in this topic who thinks that... --- Currently playing: Grand Theft Auto 3, Castlevania:Curse of Darkness, Mega Man ZX |
| Sir Auron | Posted 10/10/2006 5:46:50 PM | message detail |
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Oh man... it's nice to know all this Bowser > Crono talk is gonna
get *****-slapped once tomorrow hits. No one will be spouting that crap
when Leon makes Bowser net a measly 56.5%. Book it baby, book it. HA HA! When Bowser gets the doubling tomorrow, the Bowser > Crono bandwagon is going to be gathering some new members! Book that, baby! --- "That's a cruel, rotten, disgusting idea -- and I love it!" |
| Draco1214 | Posted 10/10/2006 5:46:54 PM | message detail |
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I'm thinking Leon is going to break 40% also. He's had RE4 on the PS2 which has sold more than the GCN version has. --- Character Battle V Score - 26/28 points Current Prediction - Crono vs. Captain Falcon |
| Sir Crono | Posted 10/10/2006 5:47:33 PM | message detail |
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Nah, Ganon's still weaker than CATS. --- As you wish. |
| trannyscience | Posted 10/10/2006 5:48:21 PM | message detail |
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I'll tell you what - if the TP trailer was indeed the reason for Link
boosting in 2k4, I'd be mighty scared about Mega Man > Snake. Snake
didn't just get a kickass trailer, he got it to the biggest freaking
audience on this site. --- xyzzy "12 percent of those who liked opera had experimented with magic mushrooms." - Reuters |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/10/2006 5:49:01 PM | message detail |
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That's the explanation for people who believe that the picture plays
no difference in a match, but still want to find some factor to
attribute it to. How many people do you really think got the
Collector's edition and thought, "wow, this Link person sure does kick
ass". LoZ already has a high playership rate. On the other hand, the
first Twilight Princess trailer rocked the industry. Everybody was
talking about it. And I maintain that was the reason for Link's "boost"
in 2k4... not just that he didn't have a Wind Waker picture. The pics
were just there to represent that newfound Link hype. I have to admit... Wind Waker was my first LoZ game. The collector's edition is what got me to play the rest of the series, and I was always a Nintendo/Sega kid. Yes, purely anecdotal, and I still don't like Link, but that's besides the point! --- Portugal. The Man Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| Sir Crono | Posted 10/10/2006 5:49:45 PM | message detail |
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Scared about Mega Man > Snake? I'd be scared of Samus > Snake! --- As you wish. |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/10/2006 5:49:50 PM | message detail |
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I'm thinking Leon is going to break 40% also. He's had RE4 on the PS2 which has sold more than the GCN version has. That and Bowser is overrated thanks to Snake. It's a good thing Bowser rSFFed Kirby though, PoP strength baby! --- Portugal. The Man Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| Janus5000 | Posted 10/10/2006 5:50:25 PM | message detail |
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I'll tell you what - if the TP trailer was indeed the reason for
Link boosting in 2k4, I'd be mighty scared about Mega Man > Snake.
Snake didn't just get a kickass trailer, he got it to the biggest
freaking audience on this site. Didn't he get two trailers? --- "Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." http://www.scorehero.com/scores.php?user=2916&diff=4 |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/10/2006 5:50:29 PM | message detail |
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I laugh at the fool who thinks Bowser is overrated! --- "Looking good, Princess, especially from this angle!" |
| trannyscience | Posted 10/10/2006 5:51:05 PM | message detail |
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well, there's the trailer, and then there's THE TRAILER. --- xyzzy "12 percent of those who liked opera had experimented with magic mushrooms." - Reuters |
| therealmnm | Posted 10/10/2006 5:51:16 PM | message detail |
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Exactly. SSB already had a strong showing in the series contest. Since
that trailer, I've been keeping tabs on the SSBB board. It's maintained
more popularity than KHII's board from day one. It generated a lot of buzz on this site. I don't think Snake BEATS Mega Man this year, but it will probably be closer than MM/Snake 2k3. --- Currently playing: Grand Theft Auto 3, Castlevania:Curse of Darkness, Mega Man ZX |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/10/2006 5:51:51 PM | message detail |
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I laugh at the fool who thinks Bowser is overrated! I laugh at the fool who loses his account on Ganon! Such a revolting character! --- Portugal. The Man Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| wavedash101 | Posted 10/10/2006 5:53:52 PM | message detail |
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I'll tell you what - if the TP trailer was indeed the reason for
Link boosting in 2k4, I'd be mighty scared about Mega Man > Snake.
Snake didn't just get a kickass trailer, he got it to the biggest
freaking audience on this site. I would laff if Snake>MM do to the trailer and then MM gets into SSBB as well. And then MM>Snake the following year in a dramatic upset. --- Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude! Board 8's Unofficial Master of the Phoenix Down |
| trannyscience | Posted 10/10/2006 5:54:04 PM | message detail |
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says the person who followed him to bracket death! --- xyzzy "12 percent of those who liked opera had experimented with magic mushrooms." - Reuters |
| Janus5000 | Posted 10/10/2006 5:57:53 PM | message detail |
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I would laff if Snake>MM do to the trailer and then MM gets into
SSBB as well. And then MM>Snake the following year in a dramatic
upset. If that happened, the King of SFF winning probably wouldn't be an upset... to the board, at least. <_< --- "Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." http://www.scorehero.com/scores.php?user=2916&diff=4 |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/10/2006 5:58:43 PM | message detail |
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says the person who followed him to bracket death! Pfft! It doesn't make Ganon suck any less! --- Portugal. The Man Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/10/2006 5:59:53 PM | message detail |
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Oh, and I'm pretty sure I'll be the one laughing when PoP is running
his acrobatic ass all over everyone in SSBB, and reversing time with
his magical sands. --- Portugal. The Man Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/10/2006 6:00:21 PM | message detail |
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The Prince would rightfully be bottom tier! --- "Looking good, Princess, especially from this angle!" |
| wavedash101 | Posted 10/10/2006 6:00:54 PM | message detail |
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Well I think a lot of people would jump on the declining (>_>) MM
+ SSBB vs Snake with MGS4 and SSBB behind him. So I definitely think
alot of people would choose Snake. Quite a few did this year just on
hype. --- Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude! Board 8's Unofficial Master of the Phoenix Down |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/10/2006 6:02:13 PM | message detail |
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Well I think a lot of people would jump on the declining (>_>)
MM + SSBB vs Snake with MGS4 and SSBB behind him. So I definitely think
alot of people would choose Snake. Quite a few did this year just on
hype. Quite a few people will be horribly wrong... though that would be the best day in GameFAQs contest matches, up until Snake > Crono. --- Portugal. The Man Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/10/2006 6:02:48 PM | message detail |
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The Prince would rightfully be bottom tier! Sorry, that spot is reserved for your mother !! Oh man you just got rocked so hard you don't even know what hit you. --- Portugal. The Man Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| wavedash101 | Posted 10/10/2006 6:06:40 PM | message detail |
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Oh, and I'm pretty sure I'll be the one laughing when PoP is running
his acrobatic ass all over everyone in SSBB, and reversing time with
his magical sands. That would be amazing! Though I doubt the Prince gets time travel as anything but a super move. Has a .00001% chance of occuring unfortunately. I would dropkick a moose if it did happen. *crosses fingers for an announcement of possibly four 3rd party characters* --- Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude! Board 8's Unofficial Master of the Phoenix Down |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/10/2006 6:14:10 PM | message detail |
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From trannyscience Posted 10/10/2006 8:39:56 PM I don't think KH and FF are as distinct as you think. just look at Sora-Aeris. and if they are so distinct, I'd feel better about Auron > Crono than I would Bowser > Crono. So you're saying 46% on Ganny is more impressive than 49% on Snake? TuRtLe ~~~ I used my brain and statistics to make my bracket. Karma Hunter used MGS fanboyism. KH won. Commit it to memory. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/10/2006 6:16:56 PM | message detail |
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From trannyscience Posted 10/10/2006 8:48:21 PM I'll tell you what - if the TP trailer was indeed the reason for Link boosting in 2k4, I'd be mighty scared about Mega Man > Snake. Snake didn't just get a kickass trailer, he got it to the biggest freaking audience on this site. If you want to get really technical, he had 2 big trailers to the two biggest audiences on this site. TuRtLe ~~~ I used my brain and statistics to make my bracket. Karma Hunter used MGS fanboyism. KH won. Commit it to memory. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 10/10/2006 6:18:23 PM | message detail |
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Given Ganon > Bowser isn't a ridiculous thought and Auron will be
getting a KH2 boost, not to mention many thing Bowser was over-rated by
Solid's pic, it's plausable. Not my personal call, but plausable. --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/10/2006 6:20:56 PM | message detail |
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I completely lost faith on a CT sequel/remake. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: Disgaea 2, PW:AA, KH:COM (Sora), Castlevania: LoI |
| wavedash101 | Posted 10/10/2006 6:23:02 PM | message detail |
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I completely lost faith on a CT sequel/remake. Hey they went back and got to work on the Mana series....>_> I would very much like to see the site explode if they announced it. Would be fun times. Like when SSBB was revealed. --- Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude! Board 8's Unofficial Master of the Phoenix Down |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/10/2006 6:23:33 PM | message detail |
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So you're saying 46% on Ganny is more impressive than 49% on Snake? I don't think anyone's saying that. Though 46% on Ganon is more impressive than 46% on Bowser. And that 49% on Snake is horribly inflated, I honestly don't even know why people are giving the thought of Bowser not overperforming there seriously. On top of Snake getting screwed by his pic, Bowser gets his background despite being the lower seed, and Snake gets a quote that makes him look like a moron. The only people who would get it are people who are probably already hardcore MG fans. Auron > Bowser would have been a sexy upset this year, but I'm not sure who I would've sided with. In 2K5 I say Bowser is about 1.5% ahead of Auron in the stats, and if Auron boosts at all this year, he has a good shot at being > Bowser, but then again I'm skeptical about KH2F. --- Portugal. The Man Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| Sir Crono | Posted 10/10/2006 6:25:39 PM | message detail |
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Though 46% on Ganon is more impressive than 46% on Bowser. LOL 46% on Ganon is more impressive than 46% on Vincent! There's no way Dante was stronger than Auron! In other words, I disagree. Bowser > Ganondorf --- As you wish. |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/10/2006 6:27:25 PM | message detail |
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LOL 46% on Ganon is more impressive than 46% on Vincent! There's no way Dante was stronger than Auron! Last year it was! Okay, not really, but considering Ganon only has reason to be underrated last year, and Bowser only has reason to be overrated, it's hardly implausible. --- Portugal. The Man Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/10/2006 6:30:13 PM | message detail |
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People who think Bowser was overrated last year just boggle my mind. The amount that he would be overrated is negilgible at best. And he'll be stronger this year than he was last anyway. --- "Looking good, Princess, especially from this angle!" |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/10/2006 6:31:44 PM | message detail |
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Last year it was! Okay, not really, but considering Ganon only has
reason to be underrated last year, and Bowser only has reason to be
overrated, it's hardly implausible. Perhaps if you put a rather absurd amount of backing into the picture overrating Bowser by a crapload. Bowser doesn't lose to Auron this year or last year. Bowser ended up where he should've last year, and there's little reason to suspect he was overrated that year. --- "Looking good, Princess, especially from this angle!" |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/10/2006 6:33:05 PM | message detail |
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Bowser was completely overrated last year. Hell, if it wasn't for
Kirby, I would consider him the most overrated character in that
bracket. --- - Why the hell did I bet against a character as deep, awesome and badass as Lara Croft, instead favouring a character from something as lame as HL2? Forgive me, XIII. |
| EvenMyROgetsB7 | Posted 10/10/2006 6:33:12 PM | message detail |
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People who think Bowser was overrated last year just boggle my mind.
The amount that he would be overrated is negilgible at best. And he'll
be stronger this year than he was last anyway. Why? It's not like we haven't seen people perform ridiculously on Snake in sprite rounds before. As for your silly NSMB boost, LOL HM-Stats. --- Portugal. The Man Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| trannyscience | Posted 10/10/2006 6:34:00 PM | message detail |
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Bowser is probably overrated by a percentage point or so, but not that
that much more. if he boosts again this year from NSMB, the amount is
pretty much a non-issue. it only matters if you're trying to bend stats
to justify Bowser > Crono! --- xyzzy "12 percent of those who liked opera had experimented with magic mushrooms." - Reuters |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/10/2006 6:34:13 PM | message detail |
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If Bowser was not overrated, then explain what exactly happened with Frog. --- - Why the hell did I bet against a character as deep, awesome and badass as Lara Croft, instead favouring a character from something as lame as HL2? Forgive me, XIII. |
| EvenMyROgetsB7 | Posted 10/10/2006 6:36:07 PM | message detail |
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Perhaps if you put a rather absurd amount of backing into the
picture overrating Bowser by a crapload. Bowser doesn't lose to Auron
this year or last year. Bowser ended up where he should've last year,
and there's little reason to suspect he was overrated that year. Yeah, it's not like we haven't seen Frog act like an elite character against Snake. Bowser still beats Auron last year, and probably this year too, but to say there's little reason to suspect he was overrated is ridiculous. Anyway, I'm done talking about this, because my statements will be known as facts in a little under 2.5 hours! --- I'm so hardcore. |
| trannyscience | Posted 10/10/2006 6:36:51 PM | message detail |
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Frog? who knows. I think the idea of Frog overperforming by 15% because of a picture is pretty ridiculous though. something else is at play there, not just the picture. --- xyzzy "12 percent of those who liked opera had experimented with magic mushrooms." - Reuters |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/10/2006 6:37:19 PM | message detail |
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Why? It's not like we haven't seen people perform ridiculously on
Snake in sprite rounds before. As for your silly NSMB boost, LOL
HM-Stats. Who? Frog? I don't recall Ryu overperforming against Snake in 2003. Bowser's picture wasn't amazing either. I seriously doubt you had people who were swayed by that picture and normally wouldn't vote for Bowser had Snake gotten a good picture. That match is still close -- perhaps with a different result! -- if we hold it today. If there's one thing I hate hearing about in these contests, it's Snake and his stupid sprite. Sometimes you people blow that way out of proportion. Yes, it's crappy. But, hey, it's SOLID SNAKE. --- "Looking good, Princess, especially from this angle!" |
| wavedash101 | Posted 10/10/2006 6:37:54 PM | message detail |
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And he'll be stronger this year than he was last anyway. Back to the NSMB boost? It truly exists, Bowser has to benefit more than Luigi. His role was very well like in that game...though it would have been nice if Bowser also had Super Paper Mario backing him as well. Then Bowser>Crono would actually seem feasible... --- Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude! Board 8's Unofficial Master of the Phoenix Down |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/10/2006 6:38:52 PM | message detail |
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I can't believe people are pointing to FROG as someone who overperformed and assuming BOWSER
is going to be the same way, despite how one was in Snake's weakest
year with by far his worst picture against Snake's strongest year with
the same sprite as 2003 -- against Ryu where he didn't underperform,
GASP! --- "Looking good, Princess, especially from this angle!" |
| Super Luigi | Posted 10/10/2006 6:39:15 PM | message detail |
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If Bowser reaches 70% on Leon tomorrow, Bye bye Crono. --- Currently playing : Star Fox Command(DS),New Super Mario Bros(DS),Mario vs DK 2 :March of the Minis(DS). |
| EvenMyROgetsB7 | Posted 10/10/2006 6:40:18 PM | message detail |
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Frog? who knows. I think the idea of Frog overperforming by 15%
because of a picture is pretty ridiculous though. something else is at
play there, not just the picture. 15%? o_O Even if you take Frog's 2K5 as accurate (and you shouldn't), it's not even close to 15%. It's only 7%, add in that Samus is underrated, and that boosts up Frog another 2% or so. 5% overrating partially because of the picture isn't that hard to believe, when you consider everything. --- I'm so hardcore. |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 10/10/2006 6:40:23 PM | message detail |
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Recall that Magus did exceptionally well on Link in the sprite round,
so it's probably not entirely Snake's fault. Crono doesn't seem to be
affected by sprites, oddly enough. --- Mustache...and green... http://www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Top100.pdf |
| wavedash101 | Posted 10/10/2006 6:40:28 PM | message detail |
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Meant to say if it truly exists. I always screw up my posts with fast typing...>_> --- Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude! Board 8's Unofficial Master of the Phoenix Down |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/10/2006 6:40:40 PM | message detail |
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I might add that we just as well may assume that Chrono Trigger
characters clearly overperform with their sprites -- Magus, Frog, Crono. Oh, yeah, Vincent with his crappy picture was totally underrated that year! PICTURE FACTOR FTL. --- "Looking good, Princess, especially from this angle!" |
| EvenMyROgetsB7 | Posted 10/10/2006 6:41:01 PM | message detail |
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And I really am done now! I just had to correct tranny's horrible mistake. --- I'm so hardcore. |