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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 616
| Gaddswell | Posted 10/31/2008 9:25:42 PM | message detail |
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BIG BOSS LEADS --- http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u205/MapleMasta/IkeClimbers2.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDaGWrPcjb8 |
| red sox 777 | Posted 10/31/2008 9:25:43 PM | message detail |
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The day vote is weakened substantially on weekends. But I have a
feeling last round was a fluke, and Chief will return to his normal day
vote ways today. --- Crono's quest to kick L-Block out of this contest: Round 3: Crono vs. L-Block vs. Pikachu vs. Alucard |
| Cecil XIX | Posted 10/31/2008 9:26:10 PM | message detail |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hULJu2mcU6s --- Wow, an intelligent criticism of Zeta. Never thought I'd see the day. - AmuroNT1 |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/31/2008 9:26:14 PM | message detail |
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The farther Raiden falls, the more BB goes up. Sorry Raiden, I love ya, but START SUCKING MORE --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/31/2008 9:26:23 PM | message detail |
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OMG CHANGE OF PLANS TIME FOR A MGS3 DAY-AFTER-HALLOWEEN RUN --- Yoblazer: http://i33.tinypic.com/16hnm05.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| Iamthekuzalol | Posted 10/31/2008 9:26:39 PM | message detail |
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SUPER MGS4 BOOST = Confirmed Sadly, Ocelot didn't benefit from that. --- Favourite wrestlers so far- Taker, Punk, Daniels, Joe. |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/31/2008 9:26:54 PM | message detail |
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So how big of a lead does Boss need over night? --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/31/2008 9:27:22 PM | message detail |
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Think Boss would be in first if Raiden wasn't here? ...Well, if Kain was here, do you think he'd have more than 10.65%? If so, then Boss might not be. If he's SFFing Raiden and not being LFF'd, then no, he wouldn't be in first. Yeah yeah, technical terms. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 2: 1st place, 38857 votes (30.47%) |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/31/2008 9:27:45 PM | message detail |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YobeaCCwfDk&feature=related --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| Yesmar | Posted 10/31/2008 9:28:00 PM | message detail |
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What the hell happened in Auron/Big Boss? And his R1 performance last year for that matter? --- "He is sleeping with the ultimate failure."--Chris Redfield |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/31/2008 9:28:08 PM | message detail |
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okay guys you know the drill ONLY MGS4 pics from now on snake and BB goin far let's do this --- Moltar Status: augh BB/Kirby/Chief/Raiden - Bracket: Chief > Kirby - Vote: Kirby (161/224) |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/31/2008 9:28:29 PM | message detail |
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SFF still affects the dominant character, just not as much. Without Raiden here BB takes 1st. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/31/2008 9:29:18 PM | message detail |
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I still don't understand this. Why would MGS4 help Big Boss more than Ocelot? Though I suppose it could be just nobody liking the abortion of a game that was MGS3. --- I want adventure in the great wide somewhere... I want it more than I can tell! - Belle http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3949/beautyandthebeast21024uh9.jpg |
| red sox 777 | Posted 10/31/2008 9:29:26 PM | message detail |
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So Big Boss vs. Bowser/Yoshi/Luigi 1v1, who do you take? --- Crono's quest to kick L-Block out of this contest: Round 3: Crono vs. L-Block vs. Pikachu vs. Alucard |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/31/2008 9:29:32 PM | message detail |
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Even a weakened Chief should have an amazing day vote as we saw with the Frog/Chief match: http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Frog_vs_Master_Chief_2004 --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/31/2008 9:30:04 PM | message detail |
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...Well, if Kain was here, do you think he'd have more than 10.65%?
If so, then Boss might not be. If he's SFFing Raiden and not being
LFF'd, then no, he wouldn't be in first. Yeah yeah, technical terms. This post is why people need to stop using 2 acronyms for the same thing. It just confuses the noobs. --- I want adventure in the great wide somewhere... I want it more than I can tell! - Belle http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3949/beautyandthebeast21024uh9.jpg |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/31/2008 9:30:06 PM | message detail |
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Nah, if Big Boss is stealing votes from Raiden that he wouldn't get
with Kain there, then he's benefiting. Look at how Link can get a lot
MORE percentage with Cloud, Sephiroth, and Samus than he can with
Sephy, Mario, and Vincent. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 2: 1st place, 38857 votes (30.47%) |
| ZFS | Posted 10/31/2008 9:30:09 PM | message detail |
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http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Frog_vs_Master_Chief_2004 really --- http://i34.tinypic.com/eff04y.gif |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/31/2008 9:30:18 PM | message detail |
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I'll be using this result to argue that MGS3 deserves a spot in the next games contest far more than MGS2. --- Yoblazer: http://i33.tinypic.com/16hnm05.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/31/2008 9:30:36 PM | message detail |
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chief ain't accepting 3rd place --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| Gaddswell | Posted 10/31/2008 9:31:02 PM | message detail |
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CHIEF BACK UP --- http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u205/MapleMasta/IkeClimbers2.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDaGWrPcjb8 |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/31/2008 9:31:04 PM | message detail |
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Nah, if Big Boss is stealing votes from Raiden that he wouldn't get
with Kain there, then he's benefiting. Look at how Link can get a lot
MORE percentage with Cloud, Sephiroth, and Samus than he can with
Sephy, Mario, and Vincent. And I've always thought this line of reasoning made no sense. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/31/2008 9:31:16 PM | message detail |
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This post is why people need to stop using 2 acronyms for the same thing. It just confuses the noobs. Actually, my post explains that they're not the same thing. And MC back up, eh? --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 2: 1st place, 38857 votes (30.47%) |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/31/2008 9:31:31 PM | message detail |
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darn you raiden stufferz --- Moltar Status: augh BB/Kirby/Chief/Raiden - Bracket: Chief > Kirby - Vote: Kirby (161/224) |
| paraboxx | Posted 10/31/2008 9:31:56 PM | message detail |
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Me, from earlier: Kirby 35% Big Boss 33% Master Chief 24% Raiden 8% hint: these numbers were generated randomly Right now this is < 15% off. |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/31/2008 9:32:00 PM | message detail |
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And I've always thought this line of reasoning made no sense. Then explain what happened. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 2: 1st place, 38857 votes (30.47%) |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/31/2008 9:32:05 PM | message detail |
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Boss goes down, and Raiden goes up --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/31/2008 9:32:41 PM | message detail |
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Then explain what happened. From R1 to R2? Isn't it self-evident? --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| Yesmar | Posted 10/31/2008 9:32:56 PM | message detail |
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This post is why people need to stop using 2 acronyms for the same thing. It just confuses the noobs. They are not the same thing. SFF has to do with the relationship between the two characters involved in the SFF. LFF has to do with their relation to *other* characters in the poll. --- "He is sleeping with the ultimate failure."--Chris Redfield |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/31/2008 9:32:58 PM | message detail |
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But it isn't true. How can you possibly think Raiden isn't hurting Big
Boss? Sure he's getting his ass kicked, but look at the difference
between Boss and Kirby from last round. Unless you think Lucas was
hurting Kirby for more than double Lucas' entire percentage. --- I want adventure in the great wide somewhere... I want it more than I can tell! - Belle http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3949/beautyandthebeast21024uh9.jpg |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/31/2008 9:34:21 PM | message detail |
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From R1 to R2? Isn't it self-evident? No, in the example I used. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 2: 1st place, 38857 votes (30.47%) |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/31/2008 9:34:45 PM | message detail |
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They are not the same thing. SFF has to do with the relationship between the two characters involved in the SFF. LFF has to do with their relation to *other* characters in the poll. SFF is FANBASE OVERLAP. It doesn't apply solely to complete beatdowns like Link/Ganon, it also applies to matches where there is clear overlap (as shown by low votals) even if both characters are close. That is EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE! Raiden and Big Boss are overlapping, and hurting eachother in the process. SFF --- I want adventure in the great wide somewhere... I want it more than I can tell! - Belle http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3949/beautyandthebeast21024uh9.jpg |
| red sox 777 | Posted 10/31/2008 9:34:46 PM | message detail |
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...Well, if Kain was here, do you think he'd have more than 10.65%?
If so, then Boss might not be. If he's SFFing Raiden and not being
LFF'd, then no, he wouldn't be in first. Yeah yeah, technical terms. This post is why people need to stop using 2 acronyms for the same thing. It just confuses the noobs. As much as I like using SFF only, this is a case where LFF makes things much clearer. Consider the sentence: If he's SFFing Raiden and not being SFF'd, then no, he wouldn't be in first. Doesn't make much sense does it? Nah, if Big Boss is stealing votes from Raiden that he wouldn't get with Kain there, then he's benefiting. Look at how Link can get a lot MORE percentage with Cloud, Sephiroth, and Samus than he can with Sephy, Mario, and Vincent. While Big Boss might get more percentage, unlike the other day, the other characters aren't static, so they'll get more percentage also, and they'll benefit more than Big Boss will. --- Crono's quest to kick L-Block out of this contest: Round 3: Crono vs. L-Block vs. Pikachu vs. Alucard |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/31/2008 9:34:51 PM | message detail |
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I can't imagine what this match would look like atm if Boss got his Snake pic --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/31/2008 9:35:53 PM | message detail |
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And boss is back up, and Kirby dominated that update o.O Weird match --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/31/2008 9:36:09 PM | message detail |
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Whoa Kirby. Maybe I should have pulled the trigger on Kirby>Chief... --- Yoblazer: http://i33.tinypic.com/16hnm05.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| Gaddswell | Posted 10/31/2008 9:36:18 PM | message detail |
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BB leading again! I wonder how many lead changes we're gonna get until the night vote hits? --- http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u205/MapleMasta/IkeClimbers2.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDaGWrPcjb8 |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/31/2008 9:36:21 PM | message detail |
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...BB being weaker if Kain was here instead of Raiden? Yeah, makes no sense. If Kain was there everyone else would be putting up weaker numbers, not just BB. The majority of Raiden's votes would be going to Boss. He'd probably be winning. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/31/2008 9:36:26 PM | message detail |
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It makes perfect sense. Raiden and Big Boss are overlapping. They are SFFing eachother. --- I want adventure in the great wide somewhere... I want it more than I can tell! - Belle http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3949/beautyandthebeast21024uh9.jpg |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/31/2008 9:36:44 PM | message detail |
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I'm likin' Kirby > Chief for now until Big Boss stays ahead for more than one update at a time. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 2: 1st place, 38857 votes (30.47%) |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/31/2008 9:38:03 PM | message detail |
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If Kain was there everyone else would be putting up weaker numbers,
not just BB. The majority of Raiden's votes would be going to Boss.
He'd probably be winning. Why would a weaker character weaken everyone else's numbers? --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 2: 1st place, 38857 votes (30.47%) |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/31/2008 9:38:10 PM | message detail |
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Big Boss has absolutely no chance here. He'd need to start taking a
lead and keeping it for good, and get at last 2k over night, maybe
more, if he wants a chance --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/31/2008 9:39:29 PM | message detail |
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No Albion he'd need like 10k to even stand a GHOST of a chance --- Yoblazer: http://i33.tinypic.com/16hnm05.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| ZFS | Posted 10/31/2008 9:39:40 PM | message detail |
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Big Boss needs a good lead, but it doesn't need to be anywhere near 2,000 votes for him to win. --- http://i34.tinypic.com/eff04y.gif |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/31/2008 9:40:03 PM | message detail |
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This should be Chiefs weakest time, and Big Boss isn't capitlizing on it --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| red sox 777 | Posted 10/31/2008 9:40:58 PM | message detail |
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When you use SFF as a verb, it sounds like a logical fallacy. Consider this sentence: Cloud is SFFing Sephiroth, but he's being LFF'd by Sephiroth, so Link is getting over 50% of the votes. Now consider: Cloud is SFFing Sephiroth, but he's being SFF'd by Sephiroth, so Link is getting over 50% of the votes. Is it technically correct? Sure, at least using my preferred definition of SFF. Is it remotely clear? No. --- Crono's quest to kick L-Block out of this contest: Round 3: Crono vs. L-Block vs. Pikachu vs. Alucard |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/31/2008 9:41:01 PM | message detail |
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Why would a weaker character weaken everyone else's numbers? Mock votals: BB: 30000 Kirby: 35000 MC: 30000 Raiden: 12000 Take out Raiden, add in Kain. BB: 38000 Kirby: 32000 MC: 27000 Kain: 19000 Something like that. Kain wouldn't be SFFd by anyone, so another decent precense in the poll brings everyone else down. Raiden's MGS votes go more to BB than anyone else. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/31/2008 9:41:20 PM | message detail |
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Chief is weaker at night than he is now, and Big Boss is MUCH stronger
during the night than he is now. MGS characters are night powerhouses. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 2: 1st place, 38857 votes (30.47%) |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 10/31/2008 9:41:41 PM | message detail |
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...BB being weaker if Kain was here instead of Raiden? Link got 36% against Sephiroth/Mario/Vincent. Link got 39% against Cloud/Samus/Sephiroth. The second trio is obviously stronger than the first - regardless of what you think of Mario/Samus, Cloud is way stronger than Vincent. And yet Link did better against them. Leon's saying this was because Link was able to SFF Samus more than Mario while avoiding undue LFF. And, if Samus were replaced with, say, Snake, Link would have done worse without the benefit of SFF votes. I imagine we'll get a good example of this comparing Mario and X with Zelda and Luigi in the poll - Zelda should resist SFF while providing lots of LFF, while Luigi probably simply gets SFF'd to death (sadly). --- Mustache...and green... |
| charmander6000 | Posted 10/31/2008 9:41:44 PM | message detail |
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1500 should be enough for BB. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Character Battle 2008: Points 159/224 Today's Match: Master Chief > Kirby |
