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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 688

charmander6000 | Posted 4/23/2009 7:54:16 PM | message detail
Well what do you expect? That thing is older than SFF.
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BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: MM > Pokemon R/B/Y Points: 49/64
Master Moltar | Posted 4/23/2009 7:54:31 PM | message detail
Division 5: Round 1 - Match 18 – Deus Ex vs. Final Fantasy Tactics vs. Metal Gear Solid vs. Pokemon G/S

Moltar’s Analysis

Deus Ex
2004 Results: N/A

Gonna need some Deus Ex Machina to see it advance

FFT
2004 Results: Won in Round 1 against Dance Dance Revolution
Lost in Round 2 against Metal Gear Solid

All about that Final Fantasy

MGS
2004 Results: Won in Round 1 against Resident Evil
Won in Round 2 against Final Fantasy Tactics
Lost in Round 3 against Final Fantasy VII

Hey, I recently went back to Shadow Moses!

Pokemon G/S
2004 Results: Lost in Round 1 against Xenogears

lol crystal

I bet Allen looked at the results of the last Games Contest, saw MGS vs. FFT, and thought, “Wow, the margin of victory here was under 1000 votes. In fact, the margin of victory was only 38 votes! That must have meant it was a super-exciting match-up! It would be cool to see these two games go at it again in a rematch! Surely, the Contest guys will love me for setting up this rematch!”

Yeah MGS vs. FFT was exciting…back in 2004. Remember when we were just coming off Cloud’s win in 2003 and SquareFAQs was the name of the site and Snake was at the ass end of the Noble Nine getting owned by Mega Man? Times have changed since then. GameFAQs has developed better taste, and now MGS, as well as Snake, is a force on the site. Final Fantasy is still big, but I doubt Tactics has held up as well. I mean, it didn’t even win the match against MGS 5 years ago, and MGS has only gone up since then. MGS beats it much easier now to take first.

FFT isn’t going to fall off completely though. The FF game is still going to do well. However the big new question is where does G/S end up in all of this. 24 hours ago, it was “G/S more like game that lost to Xenogears no way does it match MGS/FFT”. Now we’re watching R/B/Y get 50% on 3 N64 games, and one is ZELDA: Majora’s Mask. The match raises a lot of questions, but the one that applies here is “How strong is G/S compared to R/B/Y?”

The answer is not as strong. R/B/Y has its reasons to be very strong, but G/S doesn’t. It doesn’t have that nostalgia, it doesn’t have those Pokemon everyone knows and recognizes. I mean, I (and others) think it’s a better game than R/B/Y, but it’s not going to perform as well because the masses easily love the first generation the most.

Last time we saw G/S, it lost to Xenogears. As irrelevant as it may be today, it still happened. Yes, Poke-hate has faded and Pokemon has gone up since then, but GS won’t be as strong as RBY. As impressive as RBY is today, I wouldn’t take it over MGS at the moment. FFT though, yes. G/S is going to have a fraction of the strength of R/B/Y, and I think FFT should be able to handle that if it hasn’t fallen off as hard as Ramza suggests.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: MGS > FFT

Moltar’s Prediction is: MGS: 37% - FFT: 27% - Pokemon G/S: 26% - Deus Ex: 10%



Heroic Mario’s Analysis

pokemon more like suckmon

Yesterday's result has gotten everyone all excited (why!) about Pokemon domination this contest, some already calling RBY a top 10 game based on almost nothing. Needless to say, I expect the Crew to near unanimously favor GSC to take second, if not a few going for the big upset with first.

But not me!

I'm not gettin' so swept up in the Pokemon domination that my picks turn into Pokefear. Unlike Majora's Mask, we have a read on the two games here, we have something to go off of. Sure, it's hard to get a real idea of where MGS and FFT stand, but they're at least known -- they're also both from big, non-Nintendo franchises, which means there's no SFF for Pokemon to possibly take advantage of.
Master Moltar | Posted 4/23/2009 7:54:45 PM | message detail
I'm not going to pretend I know the Pokemon games, though (I don't at all), but based on what I do know, RBY should be much stronger than GSC, that's the general expectation. It makes sense, too -- it was the first Pokemon game, the biggest one, and the one most people are likely to have played/liked before quitting the series. With GSC, we know that it got rocked by Xenogears, which is a pretty pointless match at this point, but for whatever it's worth, we've seen it in action before.

It's hard for me to imagine that Pokemon has made such a huge reversal that GSC goes from barely getting 40% on Xenogears to beating FFT. I don't think 'Gears was fodder by any means back in 2k4, it was probably a respectable game, but it wasn't stronger than FFT then, and it isn't stronger than it now. FFT's probably dropped a smidge since 2k4, but it has had a recent port to keep it fresh and relevant today. Besides that, it's a Final Fantasy game -- something that's hard to top no matter who you are -- and well liked one at that.

And despite the immense respect people have for Metal Gear Solid after Snake's recent run, I'm not sold on its strength like most people are. I don't think the game is weak by any means, but it wouldn't surprise me if it's not a top 10 game and is more along the lines of a top 20 game, something that makes a little more sense when you think about it. I could be wrong here, and it has a chance to show it's as strong as most expect, but I'll need to see that. Don't think it's going to beat FFT nearly as bad as people think.

let's go final fantasy time to rock pokemon's world

Metal Gear Solid -- 35%
Final Fantasy Tactics -- 29%
Pokemon GSC -- 26%
Deus Ex -- 10%

Bracket: Metal Gear Solid > Final Fantasy Tactics
Favorites: Metal Gear Solid > Final Fantasy Tactics (voting for FFT!)



Lopen’s Analysis

"Pokemanz RBY owned face, but I'm not necessarily going to auto extend it to GS. It's in for a fight here. FFT and MGS are much badder dudes than Majora's Mask, and GS should be a lot weaker at that."

What? More wild Pokemanz appeared? What the crap. I almost feel bad about having RBY go two rounds now, I think I just totally ignored it when I made my bracket. It has a good chance, losing to Xenogears 5 years ago be damned... but I'm not supporting it here. It should be weaker than RBY by a good margin and well... FFT and MGS are pretty much powerhouses in their own right.

Anyway, I guess the gist of this match is... MGS and FFT had a real nailbiter a few years ago... and really, there's little reason to suspect it's going to be any different today. The games have both aged well... and while there has been a boost in Metal Gear Solid fandom on this site, I don't think it necessarily applies to the first MGS too terribly much. Ramza also looked like crap last year... but I don't think that says anything for FFT. Who likes Ramza, anyway? (shut it, Leonhart)

But I mean... MGS won the first time, and all x-factors point to it being the one to gain over the years. But then, there's also this new format... which could basically just throw a wrench into everything, perhaps in FFT's favor or even Pokemon's. I'm not going to claim the match is going to be close or even whether I have any idea of what's going to happen. I'm just going to be straight and say “I'm goin with gut here” and also make a disclaimer and say that I don't necessarily expect this match to be close just because it was last time. Just throwing percentages around here.

Lopen's prediction:
Metal Gear Solid – 31.57%
Final Fantasy Tactics – 31.43%
Pokemanz GS – 30.50%
Deuces Wild – 6.50%
Master Moltar | Posted 4/23/2009 7:55:47 PM | message detail
Transience’s Analysis

Holy WOW at RBY today. I picked it for first and even argued that it could be around FF6's level in strength, but even I have to admit that I was wrong. If you take the percentages seriously, RBY is looking to be about equal to FF7. Yes, seriously.

Now that I've said that, let me try to rationalize this match. You could also say that I'm making up excuses as for why RBY isn't as strong as it looks.

- The Picture. I don't believe pictures matter much - Only in extreme cases will I allow for it to determine the outcome of the match. Games just aren't very picture-sensitive. But I think one huge exception is RBY - this is a game that, more than any other in the contest, is running off nostalgia. RBY got just about the perfect picture; it stood out, it said "vote for me!", and people did.
- Majora's Mask is unproven. I know, I know, the name ZELDA strikes fear into the hearts of bracketmakers. But MM is a wildcard and if it's just weak as hell, this diminishes RBY's performance.
- Three n64 games. Yeah, I don't believe this is a very significant factor, but it can't help.

But for me, the biggest cause of alarm is that we've seen this kind of stuff before. The ultimate overreaction match is when Tifa beat Vyse in 2005 -- the same Vyse that had been constant two years in a row and was our barometer for whether or not you were strong or not. Tifa went and did the same thing to Vyse that Cloud did, and people responded by declaring her a serious threat to win the bracket. She ended up losing to Sonic who lost to Mega Man who lost to Crono who lost to Mario who lost to Sephiroth who lost to Link.

The conclusion I make from this match, therefore, is one of skepticism. I want to give RBY all the credit in the world, and I'll grant it being a top 20 game. It's earned that. But I need to see more than a round 1 beating to anoint it a godslayer. This is one of a performance but let's see what happens next match before saying anything definitive.

I wrote all this because tomorrow's match depends on how strong Pokemon actually is. These aren't unknown games. This isn't an all-Nintendo pack. This is MGS, likely a top 15 game in our contests, and FFT, a game that got 50% against it in 2004.

Obvious questions:

- is MGS as strong as we want to think it is? It's never shown itself to be a powerhouse, tying FFT and getting smashed by FF7. We assume that it is because Snake is strong, but it's yet to show us. This is its chance at redemption.
- is FFT, y'know, notable in this day and age? FFT carries the Final Fantasy name, but it's not the most accessible thing. People have assumed franchise voting for the longest time, but franchise voting just fell on its face when Zelda got doubled up by a Pokemon game.
- the ultimate question, GSC. How far is it from RBY? Common sense says that it's a good ways off - nostalgia only works with the first game, and most people started with RBY. Characters from later games have also bombed out whereas Mewtwo and Pikachu do great. RBY doing great doesn't mean GSC is top tier or even strong. We already saw this in regards to Zelda. That said, it's clearly stronger than it was in 2004. Strong enough to beat FFT?

I'm skeptical on FFT in general and have been since 2004. Ramza nearly lost to Laharl last year. Ramza to FFT is not the best comparison but when Ramza is noticeably weaker than his 2003 self, how can you not notice? FFT has fallen out of the public's eye a bit as stuff like Fire Emblem has taken over.

I'm also skeptical of GSC. I think this was going to be a close match before, but after seeing RBY, you have to at least give GSC a liiiiiiiiiiittle bit of credit, right? Right?

kids vote for noses
Xenogears had them and won
FFT loses

transience's prediction:

Metal Gear Solid - 38%
Pokemon Gold/Silver - 28%
Final Fantasy Tactics - 24%
Deus Ex - 10%
Master Moltar | Posted 4/23/2009 7:56:02 PM | message detail
Leon’s Analysis

Deus Ex: There isn’t much poll information about Deus Ex, but what little exists isn’t flattering. None of the three polls have it getting more than 5%, and in a poll with three big names, it may be hard pressed to exceed that here. JC Denton appeared in SC2K4 and got 16% on Mario, which was the plumber’s weakest year. I shouldn’t even be wasting time talking about this game, because a distant last place is a lock here.

Final Fantasy Tactics: Final Fantasy Tactics gets paired up with the game that beat it by a mere 38 votes five years ago, and my, how things have changed! People have continually referred to Ramza’s pitiful performance in the last Character Battle as to why Final Fantasy Tactics will do poorly, but Ramza was never strong. 43% on Kirby in 2003 wasn’t THAT impressive, not like it would be since 2005. Sure, Ramza’s weaker now, but still, Final Fantasy Tactics never succeeded on its own merit, regardless of how much I love it. It succeeded because of the first two words of the title, and anyone who thinks otherwise doesn’t pay much attention to these contests. I don’t think Final Fantasy Tactics can stand up to Metal Gear Solid today, but only because MGS’s strength has boosted since then, not because FFT dropped.

Metal Gear Solid: This game perhaps stands to be proportionally stronger than any other game we saw back in 2004. The series had never been lower back in 2004, but it’s recovered big time since the release of Snake Eater, Snake’s role in Super Smash Bros. Brawl, and the release of MGS4 last year. I understand that a large part in Snake’s gain in strength is due to Brawl, but there’s a big difference between MGS3 losing easily to Halo 2 back in 2004 to MGS4 going neck and neck with SSBB last year. I don’t think Metal Gear Solid has any problem taking first place here.

Pokemon Gold/Silver: Ah, two-thirds of the entry that lost to Xenogears five years ago. From what my sources tell me, Pokemon games after R/B/Y aren’t as loved, and most polls since then seem to confirm this. Of course, it’s hard to take any poll involving Pokemon before 2005 seriously because the Nintendo Boost seems to have helped the series immensely. Regardless, the Pokemon name isn’t as big as Final Fantasy or Metal Gear, so it can’t win on that front, and I can’t see it getting that close to either game one-on-one. I can’t see it placing, but it won’t get last place, at least.

Leonhart’s Vote: Two of my favorite stories here, but my vote goes to Metal Gear Solid.

Leonhart’s Prediction:

Deus Ex – 7.94%
Final Fantasy Tactics – 33.81%
Metal Gear Solid – 40.44%
Pokemon Gold/Silver – 17.81%



Ed Bellis’s Analysis

Apologies for the brief writeup – I only have a small window in which to do it.

Three strong games here, only two move on. MGS is probably the strongest of the three, its true strength likely obscured in an FF7-beatdown from 2004. FFT probably isn’t as strong as it once was, having almost tied MGS back in the day. And Pokemon GSC is probably much stronger than it was back then. The fact of the matter is that using 2004 stats for these games is futile.

So I’m just using blind intuition (read: dumb luck). POKEFEAR 2009 BABEE
Master Moltar | Posted 4/23/2009 7:56:53 PM | message detail
Prediction: uhhh
Deus Ex with 6.99%
Final Fantasy Tactics with 25.90%
Metal Gear Solid with 35.23%
Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal with 31.88%



Guest’s Analysis - Mr3790

Hello Board 8, Mr3790 here with a guest analysis of Deus Ex/Final Fantasy Tactics/Metal Gear Solid/Pokemon Gold/Silver.:

First off, Deus Ex getting fourth is a lock here. Too strong opposition plus not having much strength in the first place means so. Metal Gear Solid probably has first here, unless G/S has alot of hidden strength. That said FFT would probably have second this match. But after the previous match with Pokemon looking so strong, this likely will not happen. GS Has second place I shall assume. I have high expectations that G/S will do good against MGS. I await disappointment.

Choice:

Metal Gear Solid> Pokemon Gold/Silver

Percentages:
MGS: 35%
G/S: 31%
FFT: 27%
Deus Ex: 7%



Crew Consensus: POKEFEAR ain’t here! Even after today, MGS > FFT is the slight favorite over MGS > RBY.
greatone10 | Posted 4/23/2009 8:20:32 PM | message detail

From: Master Moltar | Posted: 4/23/2009 7:56:53 PM | #306
Crew Consensus: POKEFEAR ain’t here! Even after today, MGS > FFT is the slight favorite over MGS > RBY.


I would hope so, as RBY isn't in this match.
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PegasusLover123 | Posted 4/23/2009 8:28:52 PM | message detail
To be honest, this battle might not be so easy to predict.

FFT had a close call on MGS however like many others have said, times change, and Snake has gotten better in this timeframe.

FFT isn't dead in the water though, many enjoyed the PSX version although there was a really exploitable glitch that made it too easy along with some broken skills. Then FFT got a PSP remake with new content and a diagolue haulover, so its still well known.

Now Pokemon GSC is the unpredictable one after seeing RBY utterly demolish Majora's Mask.

However the general belief is that sequels don't perform as well as the originals do, and that can be true to a certain extent.

But keep in mind, GSC also introduced several new things to the series, most notably the new Steel and Dark types with Dark made to end the Psychic dominance that plagued RBY. Other new features in GSC were the ability for Pokemon to hold items, Special stat was now divided into Special Attack and Special Defense, and ability to breed pokemon to get a new one which can inherit some moves.

An addition that was unique to Crystal was the Battle Tower which was a challenge for many trainers because of the level and item limitations but it was also a great source for the stat boosting items if you had the right teams for it.

All in all GSC is a wildcard in this situation, we won't know its real strength until the match goes up. It could totally flop, or it might "shock" us like RBY did and slaughter the competition.

I'll likely be wrong but i think this match could be a 3 way battle for 1st and 2nd.
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Master Moltar | Posted 4/23/2009 8:37:24 PM | message detail

From: greatone10 | #307
I would hope so, as RBY isn't in this match.


Round 2 spoilers whoops!
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Match 17 - Bracket: Zelda: MM > RBY - Vote: Zelda: MM (50/64)
M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/23/2009 8:45:21 PM | message detail
On the bright side, there's a good chance this match will be exciting no matter what happens.

I'm definitely looking forward to it.
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MetricTrout | Posted 4/23/2009 8:48:34 PM | message detail
Time to do this!
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charmander6000 | Posted 4/23/2009 8:50:54 PM | message detail
This next match and FFVIII/SC/SC/Xeno should have switched so the two Pokemon games wouldn't meet.
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BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: MM > Pokemon R/B/Y Points: 49/64
MetricTrout | Posted 4/23/2009 8:51:25 PM | message detail
The good news is if I lose my sig bet, then my bracket benefits. So either way, I win.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 4/23/2009 8:51:31 PM | message detail
Ten minutes until the BGE and the progenitor of the BSE makes her debut are you excited

(yes I will personify her tonight as she snaps the necks of chocobos and pichus)
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Gr8CyberMonkey | Posted 4/23/2009 8:55:13 PM | message detail
I need something to do for the next five minutes.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/23/2009 8:57:05 PM | message detail
What a babe! She's got my vote.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 4/23/2009 8:57:23 PM | message detail
You could always watch the scene that defines the beautiful MGS theme that is Enclosure!

MGS1 SPOILERS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wriaT32v2T0
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/23/2009 9:00:19 PM | message detail
Deus Ex 2.41%

2
Final Fantasy Tactics 19.28%

16
Metal Gear Solid 22.89%

19
Pokemon Gold/Silver 55.42%

46
TOTAL VOTES 83

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Master Moltar | Posted 4/23/2009 9:00:26 PM | message detail
go away pokefreaks
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Match 18 - Bracket: MGS > FFT - Vote: MGS (52/68)
nintendogirl1 | Posted 4/23/2009 9:00:31 PM | message detail
Deus Ex 2.3%

2
Final Fantasy Tactics 20.69%

18
Metal Gear Solid 21.84%

19
Pokemon Gold/Silver 55.17%

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OH DEAR GOD
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RPGuy96 | Posted 4/23/2009 9:00:31 PM | message detail
Board vote more like Pokevote
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/23/2009 9:00:31 PM | message detail
wat
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FFDragon | Posted 4/23/2009 9:00:31 PM | message detail
Well

uh

well
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 4/23/2009 9:00:34 PM | message detail
Deus Ex 2.35%

2
Final Fantasy Tactics 20%

17
Metal Gear Solid 22.35%

19
Pokemon Gold/Silver 55.29%

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HELLO POKEMON!
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ZFS | Posted 4/23/2009 9:00:40 PM | message detail
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/23/2009 9:00:42 PM | message detail
Deus Ex 1.92%

1
Final Fantasy Tactics 19.23%

10
Metal Gear Solid 9.62%

5
Pokemon Gold/Silver 69.23%

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TOTAL VOTES 52



First and only vote for Deus Ex!

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Majin Lou | Posted 4/23/2009 9:00:42 PM | message detail
Deus Ex 0%

0
Final Fantasy Tactics 21.43%

6
Metal Gear Solid 7.14%

2
Pokemon Gold/Silver 71.43%

20
TOTAL VOTES 28

wut
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GrapefruitKing | Posted 4/23/2009 9:00:44 PM | message detail
OH GOD IT'S DOING IT AGAIN

...at least for a few minutes
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Today's prediction: Snaaake 34.70% - Pokemon GSC 29.65% - FF Tictacs 26.65% - Deux Ex 9.00%
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DanKirby | Posted 4/23/2009 9:00:55 PM | message detail
ROFL

Deus Ex 0%

0
Final Fantasy Tactics 19.35%

6
Metal Gear Solid 6.45%

2
Pokemon Gold/Silver 74.19%

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The n00b Avenger | Posted 4/23/2009 9:00:56 PM | message detail
ENOUGH POKEMON ENOUGH
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/23/2009 9:00:59 PM | message detail
Heh, MGS has this easy.
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Mr3790 | Posted 4/23/2009 9:01:01 PM | message detail
Deus Ex 0% 0
Final Fantasy Tactics 21.05% 4
Metal Gear Solid 5.26% 1
Pokemon Gold/Silver 73.68% 14
TOTAL VOTES 19

YES G/S/!
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charmander6000 | Posted 4/23/2009 9:01:08 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3462&region=SAM

TIE

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3462&region=ASI

We love Pokemon
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BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: MM > Pokemon R/B/Y Points: 49/64
RockMFR 5 | Posted 4/23/2009 9:01:09 PM | message detail
oh not this again
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eaglesarebeasts | Posted 4/23/2009 9:01:17 PM | message detail
IT ONLY SAYS POKEMON!

Thats not fair :(
Master Moltar | Posted 4/23/2009 9:01:20 PM | message detail
save_us.MGS
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Match 18 - Bracket: MGS > FFT - Vote: MGS (52/68)
GrapefruitKing | Posted 4/23/2009 9:01:30 PM | message detail
well this was scary for a second

in other news, LOL FFT
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Today's prediction: Snaaake 34.70% - Pokemon GSC 29.65% - FF Tictacs 26.65% - Deux Ex 9.00%
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/23/2009 9:01:33 PM | message detail
MGS came back from down a HUGE percentage.
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 4/23/2009 9:01:34 PM | message detail
yay go MGS, it should take the lead after pokemons board vote
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charmander6000 | Posted 4/23/2009 9:01:36 PM | message detail
This board sure loves its Pokemon.
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BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: MM > Pokemon R/B/Y Points: 49/64
Karma Hunter | Posted 4/23/2009 9:01:36 PM | message detail
Not even the legendary Pokeboard vote will stop the BGE for long
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red sox 777 | Posted 4/23/2009 9:01:42 PM | message detail
Deus Ex 5.28% 23
Final Fantasy Tactics 21.79% 95
Metal Gear Solid 35.32% 154
Pokemon Gold/Silver 37.61% 164
TOTAL VOTES 436

Let's see how much of this is the early board vote.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/23/2009 9:01:43 PM | message detail
MGS > GSC confirmed.

Jesus Christ, Pokemon.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 4/23/2009 9:02:12 PM | message detail
The scary thing is that MGS would normally have a good board vote. It should lead by the freeze though.

RBY/MM/MGS/GSC

Does RBY still manage first place?
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MetricTrout | Posted 4/23/2009 9:02:25 PM | message detail
This is way too close for comfort.
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charmander6000 | Posted 4/23/2009 9:02:47 PM | message detail
Come on Pokemon win at least 5 min. against MGS.
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BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: MM > Pokemon R/B/Y Points: 49/64
M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/23/2009 9:03:28 PM | message detail
Is...

Is GSC actually increasing its lead now?
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red sox 777 | Posted 4/23/2009 9:03:32 PM | message detail
Save_Us.Cloud
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Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests.
Sonic_Factor | Posted 4/23/2009 9:03:33 PM | message detail
no, the scary thing is that MGS would be destroying pokemon if tactics wasnt draining it's votes
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Nominate Red XIII for the Character Battle VII!
He's the Lion with a fire tail from Final Fantasy VII.
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/23/2009 9:03:46 PM | message detail
Does RBY still manage first place?

Nope. It'll be splitting, and two Poke poll options might really dilute the love.
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I, like clockwork, have been humiliated by hochiminh
Hochiminh is better than me. I was a numbskull for thinking I could defy Him.