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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 8/8/2010 9:02:12 PM | message detail
Now HERE is a company with some weakass series. I actually voted for Sonic because I have a combined 30-60 minutes of playtime with every other series on that list. If I actually played some Sega games, my guess is it would either be Sonic or House of the Dead.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/8/2010 9:02:44 PM | message detail
Hey, check this out -- Sonic's killing tons of irrelevant series.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/8/2010 9:03:23 PM | message detail
And now that we can see Bacon's not going alphabetically, we can have Nintendo tomorrow!
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/8/2010 9:04:22 PM | message detail
Oh, and today's poll is breaking the alphabetical-order streak we had for a few days. A Nintendo-poll is still within reason!

I also think an Activision-Blizzard poll would be good fun. Here's to hoping.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/8/2010 9:05:01 PM | message detail
DAMN YOU LEO



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EcchiFanboy | Posted 8/8/2010 9:06:11 PM | message detail
1. Sonic
2. Phantasy Star
3. Shining Force

I can live with this... Shining Force 2 and Phantasy Star 4 are both top 5 games for me, but Sonic is also a good series. Its no PS or SHF though.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 8/8/2010 9:06:19 PM | message detail
Yes/No: Pokemon gets second place in the Nintendo poll, beating out Mario and Smash Bros.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/8/2010 9:07:48 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #357
Yes/No: Pokemon gets second place in the Nintendo poll, beating out Mario and Smash Bros.


Please no. But seriously, looking back at the Series Contest, Pokemon still managed to lose to Metroid that year...somehow.

I forgot about Smash Bros. being in a Nintendo poll. That'll be interesting to see.
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red sox 777 | Posted 8/8/2010 9:08:50 PM | message detail
Probably not. Though Zelda/Mario/SSB will hurt each other a lot more than they hurt Pokemon.
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red sox 777 | Posted 8/8/2010 9:11:21 PM | message detail
Also, while there's almost no chance of it happening, if Zelda went for 50% I'd laugh so hard.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/8/2010 9:12:43 PM | message detail
Oh, and today's poll is breaking the alphabetical-order streak we had for a few days. A Nintendo-poll is still within reason!

I don't think there would be be a game company series poll for poll 3999. If my guess is correct, we might see a poll similar to this one for poll 3999:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2999

And of course, there might be poll similar to this one for poll 4000:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3000
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/8/2010 9:14:33 PM | message detail
Well, tomorrow's poll 3998, so we can still have Nintendo tomorrow and have that stuff later.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/8/2010 9:15:02 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #357
Yes/No: Pokemon gets second place in the Nintendo poll, beating out Mario and Smash Bros.


I'll say YES if Mario Kart's in the poll and NO if it's not.

Not that Mario Kart wouldn't get killed...but it could make a difference for Mario if people just consider all of the Mario-games as one series.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/8/2010 9:25:38 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #360
Also, while there's almost no chance of it happening, if Zelda went for 50% I'd laugh so hard.


Same here. Alternatively, what's the lowest you could see LoZ get in such a poll nowadays? It still seems hard to see it go below 40% in some ways. LoZ:OoT only went under 40% once in BGE2 (with RBY/MGS/FF8) and it's a stacked series.
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red sox 777 | Posted 8/8/2010 9:37:12 PM | message detail
Well, it got 40% in the "Is the Legend of Zelda really the best series ever?" poll.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 8/8/2010 9:39:39 PM | message detail
I can see Zelda failing to hit 40.

Animal Crossing
Donkey Kong Country
Fire Emblem
Kirby
Metroid
Mother
Pokemon
Star Fox
Super Mario Bros.
Super Smash Bros.
Super Mario Kart

Nintendo is one seriously stacked company. They might have six series that can beat the one owning Sega's poll.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/8/2010 9:40:53 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #366
They might have six series that can beat the one owning Sega's poll.


Zelda
Mario Bros.
Smash Bros.
Pokemon
Metroid

...What else?
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red sox 777 | Posted 8/8/2010 9:42:11 PM | message detail
Mario Kart, I suppose, though that would require the Megaman series being a lot stronger than the Sonic series.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/8/2010 9:42:45 PM | message detail
Well, I figured he might be thinking of Mario Kart, but I figured he'd already learned his lesson about that one!
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 8/8/2010 9:42:45 PM | message detail
Mario Kart has a shot. We saw what SMK did to Sonic 3, and it could have easily been worse without Metroid in the poll.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/8/2010 9:43:43 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #370
Mario Kart has a shot. We saw what SMK did to Sonic 3, and it could have easily been worse without Metroid in the poll.


Eh, if we have a Series Contest, Mario Kart isn't beating the Sonic series.

Well, unless Mega Man could potentially beat Smash Bros., but I doubt it.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/8/2010 9:44:24 PM | message detail
That was before LoZ:TP too, which was the 2004-2006 champion and just a little behind SSBB...and such a poll wouldn't have FF, MGS, Sonic, Mega Man, Resident Evil, and more...yikes.

Still, Pokemon's going to take a lot more percentage than last time while SSB and MK would both provide two more important series and make a dent with multi-player fans. Still hard to see LoZ fall a whole lot though.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 8/8/2010 9:44:42 PM | message detail
Things could have changed in the three years between those contests. Sonic as a series could be weaker now than in the mid-2000s. The last Character Battle and Games Contest hint at it.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/8/2010 9:46:57 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #373
Things could have changed in the three years between those contests. Sonic as a series could be weaker now than in the mid-2000s. The last Character Battle and Games Contest hint at it.


Sonic's weaker, sure, but what's Mario Kart done? I doubt Sonic's weakened by a whole lot anyway. Sonic 3 is probably weaker than Sonic 2 and S&K, and Super Mario Kart might be the strongest Mario Kart. Only Mario Kart 64 would be worth anything other than SMK.

So I'll take what we saw in the Series Contest as opposed to a games match.
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red sox 777 | Posted 8/8/2010 9:48:07 PM | message detail
SMK and MK64 would probably beat any Sonic game, just as they would beat any Megaman game. But apparently series =/= sum of the games.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 8/8/2010 9:48:31 PM | message detail
Well, Nintendo has five series that would certainly beat Sonic and one that might.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/8/2010 9:49:00 PM | message detail
The Series Contest was four years ago and Sonic's embarrassed itself a lot since then. Isn't MKW the best-selling non-Wii _____ game on the Wii, too? I'm not taking that upset, but I could see Mario Kart get close to Sonic.

Also, add Paper Mario and Wii Sports to the stacked list!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/8/2010 9:49:37 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #375
SMK and MK64 would probably beat any Sonic game, just as they would beat any Megaman game. But apparently series =/= sum of the games.


This is true. Sonic 2 would probably beat Mega Man 2, but yet we saw Mega Man beat Mario Kart pretty handily.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/8/2010 9:50:06 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #377
Isn't MKW the best-selling non-Wii _____ game on the Wii, too?


Okay, when isn't a Mario Kart game one of the best-selling games for a system?
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red sox 777 | Posted 8/8/2010 9:50:10 PM | message detail
I think Smash Bros. would do a lot worse now than in 2006, though. Without the hype, it's not going to resist SFF against SMB like that again.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 8/8/2010 9:50:53 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #377
Isn't MKW the best-selling non-Wii _____ game on the Wii, too?


I was thinking of posting that, but I knew Leon would immediately link to the polls where it looked horrible against Brawl and ignore the possibility that it could be the worst SFF this side of the last Games Contest final. MKWii has sold over 20 million copies.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/8/2010 9:52:09 PM | message detail
Plus, I think when it comes to series, a lot of series get a "respect" factor, which is why Mega Man as a series can beat Mario Kart.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/8/2010 9:52:56 PM | message detail
And why Super Mario Bros. can get super close to Final Fantasy despite the fact that FFVII would beat any Mario game with zero effort, and FFX could give them all a run for their money. FFVIII would give some of them trouble as well.

But Super Mario Bros. is a very respected series, so...
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 8/8/2010 9:54:16 PM | message detail
Well Sonic certainly seems to lack said respect factor. It wouldn't have lost that badly to a series with two games, Smash or not. You put MM in its place in 2006, and I bet it fights to win that match against Smash even with the Brawl hype.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/8/2010 9:54:33 PM | message detail
And yo's reasoning for Mario Kart > Sonic is solid, but it's the exact same reasoning for Mario Kart > Mega Man.

Well, sans the SMK > Sonic 3 point.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/8/2010 9:55:05 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #384
Well Sonic certainly seems to lack said respect factor. It wouldn't have lost that badly to a series with two games, Smash or not. You put MM in its place in 2006, and I bet it fights to win that match against Smash even with the Brawl hype.


I really, really doubt this.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/8/2010 9:55:45 PM | message detail
Fair enough about the sales, but it never hurts to continue the trend compared to whatever Sonic's done!

And SSB will be fine. It won't resist Mario-SFF like 2006, but SSBB still has an argument for being the site's #3-game and the SMG/NSMB-games haven't proven much here outside of 2007's GotY-poll. Really, SSB's had the biggest game on the past two Nintendo-consoles. That's tough to SFF...I mean, it didn't stop LoZ:OoT from doubling SSBB or beating SSBM and RBY combined while still breaking 40% in a poll with FFX in it, but it's still going to hold up about as well as you can ask for.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 8/8/2010 9:55:52 PM | message detail
Oh yeah, and Sonic doesn't have an even more popular sub-series that tons of voters probably grouped in with the main series even though they shouldn't have (MMX).
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/8/2010 9:57:19 PM | message detail
Also, LOL X-Stats, but...

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/37

Yeah. I don't think Mega Man has an excuse for that either.
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red sox 777 | Posted 8/8/2010 9:58:29 PM | message detail
By the way, using yesterday's poll and FF/RE from the Series Contest, the Chrono series is projected to get 47% on the RE series. Not bad considering the rest of the RE series besides RE4 should add a lot more than Chrono Cross.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/8/2010 9:59:52 PM | message detail
The x-stats bring up a point I was about to make: KH did quite well for just having two games, and we know the SSB-series is considerably bigger than the KH-series.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/8/2010 10:01:10 PM | message detail
Well, KH technically had three games at the time, but one of those was Chain of Memories, so take that for what you will.
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red sox 777 | Posted 8/8/2010 10:02:11 PM | message detail
The SSB Series is strong. It was projected to get something like 63% (!) against Metal Gear in 2006. Although I still suspect that SMB overperformed in FF/SMB thanks to the massive picture disparity (Mario vs. Ashe, whose game wasn't even out yet).
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/8/2010 10:05:44 PM | message detail
And it's not like I take those X-Stats at face value or whatever. I probably would've essentially said Sonic = Mega Man that year.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/8/2010 10:07:18 PM | message detail
I'm not worried about the pic in a SMB/FF-poll. EVERY gamer knows SMB and nearly every GameFAQs-voter knows FF. Of course, it probably didn't hurt...!

And okay, three games. Whoops.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/8/2010 10:11:10 PM | message detail
Also, yo, would you take Mario Kart to beat Street Fighter in a Series Contest?

Because Sonic 1 beat SFII twice easily in the Games Contest.

And then SF wasn't very far behind RE (Pic factor notwithstanding).
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red sox 777 | Posted 8/8/2010 10:11:30 PM | message detail
Well, I was very uncomfortable with the idea of Mario being worth 46% on Zelda, and with Sonic being (substantially) stronger than Metal Gear and Megaman. We've seen with Snake that pictures do matter even for very strong characters, and as far as recognizability goes, that FF picture did as good a job representing FF as Zero Suit Samus did representing Samus.
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red sox 777 | Posted 8/8/2010 10:12:47 PM | message detail
RE got a doubling or thereabouts on SF in favorite Capcom series polls twice, so it's probable that picture in the Series Contest had a huge effect.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/8/2010 10:13:06 PM | message detail
Well, like I said before, I think setting Sonic = Mega Man that year makes everything look a lot better.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 8/8/2010 10:13:44 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #394
And it's not like I take those X-Stats at face value or whatever. I probably would've essentially said Sonic = Mega Man that year.


At the time, I might have agreed, but all the evidence we've ever had, taken together, does suggest MM is greater. It has the whole X series advantage, and the "respect vote" you brought up is a great point, because I feel Mega Man has it while Sonic does not. The Sonic characters have embarrassed themselves recently, while Mega Man looks pretty damn good until he hits the beasts. Mega Man did as well on Cid Highwind as Sonic did on Lightning before her game was out. That's clearly respecting one and dissing the other, and I feel that attitude can easily transcend to their series, especially when Mega Man's has remained relatively stagnate (it's not like MM9 and 10 inspired any hate), while Sonic's has been getting pooped on for years.
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