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charmander6000 | Posted 12/10/2010 4:04:46 PM | message detail
that was a total joke like all my Melee > Brawl 60/40 crap.

You aren't going to get away from that one so easily.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/10/2010 4:05:33 PM | message detail
Hey I haven't flipped out at all, but I'm going to take issue when someone says all my pictures are bad. Making those images isn't as easy as some of you guys like to think. I mean yeah some of my stuff has definitely been awful, but not all of it.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/10/2010 4:06:10 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #401
that was a total joke like all my Melee > Brawl 60/40 crap.

You aren't going to get away from that one so easily.


I am conceding the match and taking whatever you guys want to give me for it. I have zero faith in Melee after today.
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FFaddict1313 | Posted 12/10/2010 4:06:32 PM | message detail
Ulti, Majora's Mask probably has the best set of characters in a Zelda game. Sure, they're not Link... But Skull Kid and Mask Salesman are both pretty cool, I think. That may not exactly translate to votes, though. >_>
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/10/2010 4:09:44 PM | message detail
My pic had Skull Kid, the angry moon, and Link. Maybe SB thought it was too cluttered.
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Lopen | Posted 12/10/2010 4:09:54 PM | message detail
Well it's not quite "easy" but it's not really OH GOD I'VE BEEN LABORING IN MY PIC MILL FOR COUNTLESS HOURS TOILING AWAY ON THIS.

Quit making yourself out to be a martyr is all I'm saying-- you do it because you like the cred just admit it.

Speaking from personal experience late round pics are really the only ones that take a long time unless you're working with utter crap for a pic base and are trying to make it look good. The only round 1-3 pic that ever took me more than 15 minutes to make was a Kratos Aurion pic where I tried to take one from the ToS anime (and of course it wasn't used despite looking totally awesome)
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/10/2010 4:11:01 PM | message detail
I am conceding the match and taking whatever you guys want to give me for it. I have zero faith in Melee after today.

Melee still has a chance.
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The Mana Sword | Posted 12/10/2010 4:11:29 PM | message detail
Well it's not quite "easy" but it's not really OH GOD I'VE BEEN LABORING IN MY PIC MILL FOR COUNTLESS HOURS TOILING AWAY ON THIS.

I'll have you know that my Link vs. Everyone pic took at least 30 minutes and it wasn't even used so BACK OFF.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/10/2010 4:13:10 PM | message detail
Oh no doubt, but Pokemon pictures are the exception. There are practically zero things to pull a good Pokemon picture from. With everything else, the only difficult stuff was dealing with game logos.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/10/2010 4:14:25 PM | message detail
My Melee/Brawl pic took a while because I couldn't find a decent Sonic render, so I had to pull that Sonic from a gameplay pic.

http://oi56.tinypic.com/10z21as.jpg

This also took a while, but it was my first attempt. Now that I look at it, it does appear that the foreground characters kinda blend in with the moon. I should have made them bigger and just used upper body shots.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/10/2010 4:15:07 PM | message detail
Melee's still 55-45ing Brawl people, this match is no more relevant than Halo/Halo 3.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/10/2010 4:15:27 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #410
Now that I look at it, it does appear that the foreground characters kinda blend in with the moon. I should have made them bigger and just used upper body shots.


Or just use outer glow, like everyone told you to do >_>
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/10/2010 4:16:16 PM | message detail
I did! I didn't want to make it so extreme, though.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/10/2010 4:16:38 PM | message detail
Oh, it'd be pretty awesome if the Melee vs. Brawl pic was Link vs. the Brawl cast minus Link.
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transients | Posted 12/10/2010 4:17:17 PM | message detail
I'd guess about 12%. leaderboard is gonna get rocked this match.

argh why didn't I pick Halo
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Lopen | Posted 12/10/2010 4:19:31 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #409
Oh no doubt, but Pokemon pictures are the exception. There are practically zero things to pull a good Pokemon picture from. With everything else, the only difficult stuff was dealing with game logos.


Man what are you talking about. Every Pokemon has pretty decent official art and an anime/gobs of fanart to boot if you don't like that.

Hell with that style you used you don't even need to crop them out of any pic you found em in. <_<
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/10/2010 4:20:19 PM | message detail
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695924 | Posted 12/10/2010 4:21:16 PM | message detail
With this I think I can safely say I'm not going to bank again. Not like I entered for prizes, but at least I got on the battle leader board.
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Lopen | Posted 12/10/2010 4:22:21 PM | message detail

From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #417
Yesss, go KH2. I always thought KH > KH2 was silly, just based on how much the KH crew grew in strength after 2 came out.


Man wasn't the whole Square dominance of 2003 attributed to KH by most people.
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Big Bob | Posted 12/10/2010 4:24:32 PM | message detail
To be honest, I think it has more to do with the site shift than anything else. GameFAQs was still growing, and KH happened to come out at the right time for people to think it was the reason for Cloud and Sephiroth's success.

Keep in mind Sora lost to effin' AERIS that year. Nobody takes her to win that match today.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/10/2010 4:25:45 PM | message detail

From: Lopen | #419
Man wasn't the whole Square dominance of 2003 attributed to KH by most people.


Yeah, but Sora was weaksauce until 2006, and he's far more representative of the strength of the series than the rest of the FF crew.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/10/2010 4:27:43 PM | message detail
Sora had decent strength pre-KH2, just not near elite level.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/10/2010 4:45:27 PM | message detail
Sora 55/45'd Alucard in 2005 and put up 62% on Hayabusa in 2004 (after Hayabusa just beat Jill, who Squall could barely 60/40 the year before), all well before KHII hit. He certainly got stronger after KHII, but I don't think he exploded. His best match was that great 46% on Mega Man in 2006, but he has never really looked that strong in any other match since, which suggests to me that it was an anomaly. I mean hell, he barely scored 62% on Lara Croft in the 2007 4way contest, and he didn't look good in his most recent 1v1 outing.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/10/2010 4:46:19 PM | message detail

From: Lopen | #416
Hell with that style you used you don't even need to crop them out of any pic you found em in. <_<


I honestly don't know what cropping even is, but the issue I came across was the image not being split up in a normal way three times. It took forever to get it just right with the polygon select tool or whatever it was.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/10/2010 4:46:57 PM | message detail
Square looked really good in 2006 too. That was the year the Square near-elites took off and separated themselves from the Nintendo near-elites. I daresay Cloud and Sephiroth would have looked really great too, except that they ran into Link in the week leading up to TP's launch.
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transients | Posted 12/10/2010 4:47:40 PM | message detail
2006 was Nintendo's year. Nintendo has never been stronger than in 2006.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/10/2010 4:50:22 PM | message detail
And if you want to consider the Link/Cloud/Sephiroth/Snake and Link/Cloud/Snake matches, those both show how ridiculously above the field Clinkeroth was that year. 2 years later we have the same Cloud/Sephiroth/Snake scenario, but instead of barely beating Sephiroth Snake barely beats Cloud this time- nearly doubling Sephiroth. I'd say KH2 did exactly what we were hyping it to do in giving us another year of (New) Square, only Link trumped everything by ending the contest on the release date of the most hyped game in 8 years.
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Advokaiser | Posted 12/10/2010 4:50:53 PM | message detail
Here's a tricky question guys:

Would you take Chrono Cross to beat Mario Kart Wii with over 54%?

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Haste_2 | Posted 12/10/2010 4:52:09 PM | message detail
Yesss, go KH2. I always thought KH > KH2 was silly, just based on how much the KH crew grew in strength after 2 came out.

Yep, I'm glad the game I like better is winning. KH is great near the end, but I feel KH2 was more consistently interesting. You make a good observation, though. Still, it's not like KH2 is an overwhelming favorite or anything.

I was really doubting KH2 could do it. I was considering picking KH1 in my Battle Challenge, risking 5000 points or so, but I'm glad I banked instead....

Oh no doubt, but Pokemon pictures are the exception. There are practically zero things to pull a good Pokemon picture from.

Depends how you define "good". Voters LOVE sprites pulled from the games. Could you do us a favor and make sure all your Pokemon GSC pics are sprites? =P (Except maybe this round, just because Zelda:MM beating GSC would by FAUNNY)

I say you do a great job with the pics.

His best match was that great 46% on Mega Man in 2006, but he has never really looked that strong in any other match since, which suggests to me that it was an anomaly. I mean hell, he barely scored 62% on Lara Croft in the 2007 4way contest, and he didn't look good in his most recent 1v1 outing.

I think Sora was pretty constant throughout '06, '07, and '08, actually. He proved he still had strength by getting very close to close to Squall in 2008. (and also in 2007, at least his first showing against Squall) Sora just seems to be oddly weak if the competition is weak, though, like against Lara, as you were saying. As another example, in 2008 he didn't beat Fox McCloud NEARLY as handily Squall beat Yoshi, even though the proportions should be very similar with those two pairs of characters. (see the following round)

The Winter 2010 contest, though....yeah, I don't know WHAT happened to Sora there.

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Big Bob | Posted 12/10/2010 4:53:18 PM | message detail
Sora only having night matches probably hurt.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/10/2010 4:53:42 PM | message detail
If GSC wins, me and KP will go nuts with Pokemon sprite pictures. Don't you worry :D
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Haste_2 | Posted 12/10/2010 4:55:16 PM | message detail
Would you take Chrono Cross to beat Mario Kart Wii with over 54%?

No. I think Chrono Cross would struggle to beat Phoenix Wright. I figure you're using this to perhaps compare Majora's Mask to GSC? Keep in mind GSC also may have SFFed Mario Kart, so Majora's Mask prospects are still not bad, though.

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red sox 777 | Posted 12/10/2010 4:56:59 PM | message detail
Nintendo was really strong from 2005-2007, but Square did the best relative to it in 2006 I think. Sora outperformed Bowser (a surprise), Vincent beat Ganondorf, and Tifa gave Samus an incredible scare. As late as day 1 of the Battle Royale, Cloud/Seph/Snake put up 53% on Link/Mario/Samus. Next year IIRC Link/Mario put up 58% on Cloud/Sephiroth. Granted, Snake isn't from Square and makes that group a lot more diverse, but Snake wasn't even pulling in that much percentage in the BR. Indeed, Cloud/Seph put up 46% on Link/Mario/Samus that day, better than they did against just Link and Mario a year later.

If the contest had ended a few weeks earlier, Cloud might have had a chance at the upset even, but as it is Link was not going to lose or get anything less than his biggest win yet, really, on the day of TP and the Wii's release.
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transients | Posted 12/10/2010 4:59:55 PM | message detail
yeah, but then Zelda smashed Aeris and Link rocked that battle royale hard. Snake boosted solely by being in a trailer and everything Smash-related went through the roof.
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Haste_2 | Posted 12/10/2010 5:00:24 PM | message detail
Sora only having night matches probably hurt.
True, but there's still the fact that Bowser won by more than a small amount.... there were many oddities in the latest character contest, though. Sonic's utterly crappiness, huge sign of weakness of both Cloud (except for against Link) and Sephiroth, the rise of old-school Final Fantasy strength, and so forth....

If GSC wins, me and KP will go nuts with Pokemon sprite pictures. Don't you worry :D

You're awesome,.

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red sox 777 | Posted 12/10/2010 5:02:20 PM | message detail
Well, both of them did very well that year. It wasn't like 2003 where Nintendo was below par and Square was dominant. And plus, all the really impressive feats on Nintendo's side that contest were from Zelda characters- TP overrode KH2.
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kinsho3 | Posted 12/10/2010 5:08:58 PM | message detail
It wasn't just Sora that looked impressive in 2006. Riku got something like 45~% on Yoshi and and Axel managed 30% against Mega Man, which was pretty much above expectations, I think. Kairi also won a freaking match in that contest.
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Advokaiser | Posted 12/10/2010 5:11:29 PM | message detail
No. I think Chrono Cross would struggle to beat Phoenix Wright. I figure you're using this to perhaps compare Majora's Mask to GSC? Keep in mind GSC also may have SFFed Mario Kart, so Majora's Mask prospects are still not bad, though.


Hmmm yeah, Mario Kart was probably being SFFed, but so was Wii Sports. I would have never thought of Majora's Mask getting the doubling on Chrono Cross, specially after watching its performance against Dragon Quest VIII.

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charmander6000 | Posted 12/10/2010 5:27:59 PM | message detail
Match CV: (1) Final Fantasy X vs. (5) Golden Sun

Last Round

Final Fantasy X – 70.83%
Borderlands – 29.17%

Golden Sun – 53.69%
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas – 46.31%

Analysis

I was kind of surprised at the whining San Andreas losing caused on the board. You’d think most people would know by now that this site loves RPGs and Nintendo and this game has both. I’m glad this contest has showed that being a handheld game doesn’t automatically make the game weak as we’ve seen many of them surpass our expectations. Still Final Fantasy X should have no problem taking out the final Gameboy Advance game.

Some people have been talking about some kind of RPG SFF in this match and I think that’s a bit ridiculous. Sure people who like one type of genre are more likely to play other games from the genre, but first of all the games are on two different platforms and second expecting Final Fantasy X to benefit from SFF would be like expecting Final Fantasy X to SFF one of the Pokemon games. I just don’t see it happening.

A lot of people think that Grand Theft Auto is weak because it lost to a handheld game, but while I didn’t think this before I feel that Golden Sun won because of its strength. Final Fantasy X hasn’t exactly impressed anyone so far this contest, but it should still have no problems against Golden Sun. I expect it to finish at around the mid 60s.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Final Fantasy X > GTA: San Andreas

charmander6000’s Prediction: Final Fantasy X wins, 64.53% - 35.47%

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PegasusLover123 | Posted 12/10/2010 5:46:03 PM | message detail
It will be interesting to see how this match turns out. FFX is good but Golden Sun isnt a weakling either after seeing it take out GTA:SA.
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abdou | Posted 12/10/2010 5:56:31 PM | message detail
FFX will barely hit 60%

GS is strong
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transients | Posted 12/10/2010 5:57:13 PM | message detail
based on stats, yeah, FFX shouldn't be much above 60% here. I dunno though, that seems pretty messed up to me. if FFX struggles to get 60, it is screwed vs. Melee and Brawl.
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Bigwig_rah | Posted 12/10/2010 6:00:12 PM | message detail
Wow, KHII at a 1750 lead. It's hard to believe this match was ever in doubt.
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Haste_2 | Posted 12/10/2010 6:01:14 PM | message detail
RE4 got 66% on Vice City, so you'd expect FFX to, get say, 67% on it; probably about the same on San Andreas, So, if FFX failed to break, say, 62% on Golden Sun, that would make one more nail in FFX's coffin.

Also, will Golden Sun be the strength this round as it was previously? It is no longer the release date of the game (give or take a couple days).

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voltch | Posted 12/10/2010 6:01:24 PM | message detail
I still think the case for KH was a good one!
Another day, another year, KH woulda won damnit.
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transients | Posted 12/10/2010 6:02:13 PM | message detail
if anything it should be more. GS is much higher on the FAQs and is actually in people's hands now.
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pjbasis | Posted 12/10/2010 6:02:40 PM | message detail
Jeez.

At least we know the KH fanbase isn't part of smartvotersfaqs,
voltch | Posted 12/10/2010 6:03:09 PM | message detail
But games actually getting released often deboost stuff if they fail to live up to the hype.
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tgs2 | Posted 12/10/2010 6:03:35 PM | message detail

From: Haste_2 | #444
RE4 got 66% on Vice City, so you'd expect FFX to, get say, 67% on it; probably about the same on San Andreas, So, if FFX failed to break, say, 62% on Golden Sun, that would make one more nail in FFX's coffin.

Also, will Golden Sun be the strength this round as it was previously? It is no longer the release date of the game (give or take a couple days).


The game just came out in Europe today for what it's worth.

It's freakishly good bracket placing.
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Haste_2 | Posted 12/10/2010 6:09:47 PM | message detail
I would laugh if FFX fails to break 60% tomorrow and still somehow defeats Melee/Brawl....

Also, tomorrow's pic is fantastic. I couldn't think of a better FFX scene (though it's too dark, I'll admit) and Golden Sun looks great, too. Also, FFIX looks AMAZING for tomorrow, too. Maybe it could break 60%. Hey, what if FFIX outdid FFX percentage-wise this round? It would be a moral victory before its inevitable loss, at least.

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