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red sox 777 | Posted 12/23/2010 1:13:32 PM | message detail
Let's go Link. Santa is a boring character who's only popular because he's associated with the best holiday of the year, unlike our great hero Link who overflows with character depth.
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transients | Posted 12/23/2010 1:13:46 PM | message detail
Santa's going to get godstomped.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/23/2010 1:14:25 PM | message detail
Do they really stop? I've complained about Crono/Sonic and Crono/Vincent 2007 for years. Not to mention Mario/Crono and Mario/Cloud, where the controversy has continued for 7-8 years. Or how about Zelda always winning? People complain about that all the time.

You know there's a difference. For one thing you barely mention it, as much as you didn't like it you didn't make a huge fuss and your tone is very different than what's going on here or even the daily whiners that we get every day. Everyone has results that they don't like and we can all go a list them, but when the stats topic makes me feel like I have to go to the stupid replies for whiners topic one week after the actual match then something is wrong.

Heck Extha calmed down sooner than these guys. Sure he's still pissed, but at least he doesn't act childish.
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The Mana Sword | Posted 12/23/2010 1:15:27 PM | message detail
Umineko sucks haw haw
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This is the kind of **** that allowed the Black Turtle win to happen. 5,000 dead brackets. Want that on your damn conscience, Zelda apologists?
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/23/2010 1:15:54 PM | message detail

From: The Mana Sword | #404
Umineko sucks haw haw


I always knew you were an XIII alt

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The Mana Sword | Posted 12/23/2010 1:16:25 PM | message detail
Now that was totally uncalled for.
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This is the kind of **** that allowed the Black Turtle win to happen. 5,000 dead brackets. Want that on your damn conscience, Zelda apologists?
charmander6000 | Posted 12/23/2010 1:18:22 PM | message detail
As much as I love the bonus poll, I'm going to feel sick to my stomach when Link beats Santa.
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695924 | Posted 12/23/2010 1:19:18 PM | message detail
Next year we need Link vs Jesus on Christmas.
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pjbasis | Posted 12/23/2010 1:19:34 PM | message detail
Santa will easily enter Noble Nine range.
Evillordexdeath | Posted 12/23/2010 1:20:09 PM | message detail
So who do we all plan on voting for between Link and Santa? I'm actually leaning Link at the moment.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 12/23/2010 1:20:12 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #399
What? It's become cool to hate Umineko, not love it. Have you ever seen the reactions to that ranking? There's a bunch of people every time who go I CAN'T BELIEVE WE RANKED UMINEKO GOD DAMNIT BOARD 8, with none of them having actually played it.

And I had Brawl>Melee for a long time. This isn't a split-second decision.


Ranking Umineko in the top 10 is a ridiculous decision whether you've played it or not. It's the only time I've ever agreed with Black Turtle: this board moves from cult thing to cult thing, flavour of the month to flavour of the month. A PW game would have made the list a couple of years ago. You can't deny that "cult" stuff like Umineko is cool to like.
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LOLContests | Posted 12/23/2010 1:21:03 PM | message detail
Link might be able to actually win in Asia for once!

And I would imagine Santa has more of a Day Vote, since he's called other names over in Europe. I mean it's SANTA, I don't know how you couldn't recognize him, but it's hurt entrants before.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/23/2010 1:21:38 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #399
There's a bunch of people every time who go I CAN'T BELIEVE WE RANKED UMINEKO GOD DAMNIT BOARD 8, with none of them having actually played it.


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XIII_rocks | Posted 12/23/2010 1:21:53 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #405
I always knew you were an XIII alt


Well firstly that's a bit harsh. Secondly, this tells me you pronounce my name "ex aye aye aye", which is weird.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 12/23/2010 1:23:34 PM | message detail
KP, please explain the absence of stuff like Katamari Damacy and Phoenix Wright on that list.

It became a cool thing to like on this board for a long time. Are you seriously doubting that?
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Lucid Faia | Posted 12/23/2010 1:24:54 PM | message detail
So what - if anything - makes Umineko so much better than other VNs?

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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/23/2010 1:25:54 PM | message detail
I'd rather you explain why you care so much about a game you've never played ranking highly on a list. 'Cult' is not a good reason.

It's funny, because the people who played it and didn't like it didn't care about it getting on the list. It was only the people who had never played it that complained.

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The Mana Sword | Posted 12/23/2010 1:26:12 PM | message detail
KP you can't deny that Umineko has been very fad-ish on the board.

It's starting to wear off a bit now, but a couple months ago you can't really argue against the fact.
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This is the kind of **** that allowed the Black Turtle win to happen. 5,000 dead brackets. Want that on your damn conscience, Zelda apologists?
charmander6000 | Posted 12/23/2010 1:27:02 PM | message detail
There's a bunch of people every time who go I CAN'T BELIEVE WE RANKED UMINEKO GOD DAMNIT BOARD 8, with none of them having actually played it.

It's not a game, it's like ranking The Godfather (the movie not the game) because consoles can play movies now or even Pokemon I Choose You / Squirtle Squad Game Boy Advance Video for something that's cartridge base.
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The Mana Sword | Posted 12/23/2010 1:27:27 PM | message detail
charmander YOU FOOL
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This is the kind of **** that allowed the Black Turtle win to happen. 5,000 dead brackets. Want that on your damn conscience, Zelda apologists?
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/23/2010 1:27:43 PM | message detail
No more fad-ish than Persona 4, which also ranked on the list and no one complained about that one!

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charmander6000 | Posted 12/23/2010 1:28:57 PM | message detail
And yeah Umineko is a fad that the board likes to go through...

Katamari Damacy -> Phoenix Wright -> Persona 4 -> Umineko
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XxSoulxX | Posted 12/23/2010 1:29:05 PM | message detail
No more fad-ish than Persona 4, which also ranked on the list and no one complained about that one!

Yes they did, just not as bad.
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pjbasis | Posted 12/23/2010 1:29:28 PM | message detail
Persona 4 is like Pokemon.

Started as a huge fad.

Still remained damn popular though, because it was actually good.
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/23/2010 1:29:42 PM | message detail

From: Lucid Faia | #416
So what - if anything - makes Umineko so much better than other VNs?


Story, characters, music, atmosphere.

The final round of voting probably also helped; Umineko is generally love/hate, and it asked you to pick your 3 favorite games out of a decently sized list.

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The Mana Sword | Posted 12/23/2010 1:29:59 PM | message detail
Persona was a fad too. And people definitely complained about that as well. Perhaps not as vocal as Umineko (though I've not really seen as much Umineko hate as you claim), but there was definitely complaining.
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This is the kind of **** that allowed the Black Turtle win to happen. 5,000 dead brackets. Want that on your damn conscience, Zelda apologists?
Mumei | Posted 12/23/2010 1:30:12 PM | message detail
Which ought to make you reevaluate if you're justified being so upset here. People voted SSBB over SSBM here, and IGN had SSBB beat SSBM and SSB combined. Most SSBM-fans have moved on to SSBB pretty gracefully, even if they still prefer SSBM deep down...except a few adamant fans. The rest of the world isn't treating SSBB like it's SMS, and watching people do it here so melodramatically is petty and selfish, like Ulti said.

It shouldn't be surprising that Brawl won. It's a game that intentionally targets the lowest-common denominator, skill-wise. People who are casual fans of both probably would be expected to like Brawl more - it has everything that they like about Melee and more and it's far more forgiving of mistakes (much more difficult to die at low percentages, better recovery for characters in general, more floaty characters in general, very easy to DC out of a lot of combos, etc.). And those people are more numerous, I think. Of course, Brawl still failed to even things up between the skilled and unskilled players, simply because even with those crutches given to unskilled players, it doesn't make up for differences in skill.

But those same things that make it appealing to casuals are achieved basically by taking away what made Melee fun as a competitive game. The problem was that with Melee, Sakurai intentionally tried to make the game better for hardcore players - but clearly didn't leave casual players behind. It is possible for a game to be a good competitive game and be accessible to people of varying skill levels. That's what we got with Melee, and what we were expecting with Brawl. Instead, Sakurai decided that he would rather sacrifice the things that made Melee better in exchange for making casual players feel like they suck marginally less. And in exchange, we got a game that is broken as a competitive game and needs fan patches to make it worth playing in a tournament setting.

Given what we were expecting, how it was hyped to us, and what was essentially a bait-and-switch that we got, it shouldn't be surprising that Brawl receives a lot of venom. I don't even think it's a bad game, per se. It's just very disappointing.

And completely inferior to Majora's Mask, naturally.

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charmander6000 | Posted 12/23/2010 1:30:18 PM | message detail
charmander YOU FOOL

Yeah, I realized my mistake as I posted it. I think we may have to evacuate the topic.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/23/2010 1:30:26 PM | message detail

From: XxSoulxX | #423
No more fad-ish than Persona 4, which also ranked on the list and no one complained about that one!

Yes they did, just not as bad.


Why is it bad? Persona 4 is awesome. A game should not be excluded from a list because it didn't sell 5 million copies.

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/23/2010 1:30:29 PM | message detail
I can't believe we're actually getting Link/Santa. I was all ready to vote Link before being reminded that this might be a test-run for a fictional character contest. Dammit.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 12/23/2010 1:31:00 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #417
I'd rather you explain why you care so much about a game you've never played ranking highly on a list. 'Cult' is not a good reason.

It's funny, because the people who played it and didn't like it didn't care about it getting on the list. It was only the people who had never played it that complained.


I asked you a question, I'd appreciate you did me the courtesy of answering it.

I care because I participated in that contest and one of the representatives of my vote was B8's latest flavour of the month. I could love Umineko if I played it, but it'd still be stupid.

And this is before you get into the whole "not a game" thing, but that's a very arguable point.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/23/2010 1:32:15 PM | message detail
I'm surprised PW didn't get on the list. It's probably because everyone likes it, but not that many people would put it as a Best Game Ever.

KD didn't get on because it isn't that good.

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pjbasis | Posted 12/23/2010 1:33:30 PM | message detail
I like Umineko and I'd complain.

It's hardly a...!
neonreaper | Posted 12/23/2010 1:33:57 PM | message detail
more like Uminerdo
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Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 12/23/2010 1:34:31 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #380
I'm sorry, but people here have whatever right to express whatever the hell opinion they want about games, as long as they've given that game a chance. If we think that Brawl beating Melee is a travesty, then that's what were gonna say. There have been people here complaining about every result under the sun - why are you getting all mad over Brawl being the target this time? Because you like it? Sorry, but it doesn't work that.


This is hilarious, because as soon as you turn it around on a game KP likes, he goes into *****-mode for a week straight.

Remind me again why I haven't added him to the ignore list with his buddy Biolizard?
Lucid Faia | Posted 12/23/2010 1:35:09 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #425
Story, characters, music, atmosphere.


But why is it more popular around here than say, Fate/Stay Night?

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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/23/2010 1:35:09 PM | message detail
If "IT'S NOT A GAME" is your complaint for Umineko, sure, fine, whatever.

I've always thought the entire argument should've gotten a "Who cares" from just about everyone, but apparently I'm not B8!

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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/23/2010 1:36:36 PM | message detail

From: Lucid Faia | #435
But why is it more popular around here than say, Fate/Stay Night?


The general story appeals more to B8. Umineko is mostly a mystery. FSN is very 'anime'.

And there was never a big push to get people to try FSN. Umineko was like a virus for a while, with everyone trying to get everyone else to play it.

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charmander6000 | Posted 12/23/2010 1:36:44 PM | message detail
I can't believe we're actually getting Link/Santa. I was all ready to vote Link before being reminded that this might be a test-run for a fictional character contest. Dammit.

I'd suggest voting for Link then. SBAllen's major fear about letting fictional characters in would be that they would overrun these contests. If Link struggles to win (even if considering that this would be Santa's best week/day) I'd doubt SBAllen would let any fictional characters in.
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Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 12/23/2010 1:37:12 PM | message detail
I mean, we objectively pointed out that GSC was a complete rehash of RBY and he's been whining about it 2 weeks later.
red sox 777 | Posted 12/23/2010 1:38:15 PM | message detail
I can't believe we're actually getting Link/Santa. I was all ready to vote Link before being reminded that this might be a test-run for a fictional character contest.

If the first fictional character he runs into can beat Link, the fictional character contest won't be so exciting. Vote for Link for great justice!
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Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest.
AxemPink | Posted 12/23/2010 1:38:31 PM | message detail
Santa wouldn't be eligible for a fictional character contest, though.
ZFS | Posted 12/23/2010 1:40:23 PM | message detail
Umineko was like a virus for a while, with everyone trying to get everyone else to play it.

Bad times.

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whatisurnameplz | Posted 12/23/2010 1:40:51 PM | message detail
Santa wouldn't be eligible for a fictional character contest, though.

You just gotta believe!
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Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 12/23/2010 1:41:02 PM | message detail

From: AxemPink | #442
Santa wouldn't be eligible for a fictional character contest, though.


Yeah, that would ruin Christmas for all the 8 year old FAQers who still believe.

Although that would be a great tagline for a Santa run

Believe.
charmander6000 | Posted 12/23/2010 1:41:02 PM | message detail
Santa wouldn't be eligible for a fictional character contest, though.

Still characters like Batman and Darth Vader would and those characters would probably have no problem against Santa.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/23/2010 1:43:19 PM | message detail
I mean, we objectively pointed out that GSC was a complete rehash of RBY

Wait when did that happen? GSC added more stuff to Pokemon than any other generation.
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The Mana Sword | Posted 12/23/2010 1:43:38 PM | message detail
Santa has been in games, he is totally eligable.
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vcharon | Posted 12/23/2010 1:43:38 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #446
Still characters like Batman and Darth Vader would and those characters would probably have no problem against Santa.


It's a bit different, this is Santa against Link fresh off winning yet another contest (anti-votes) and on Christmas Eve, the equivalent of having Batman face Link when the next Batman movie premiers.
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whatisurnameplz | Posted 12/23/2010 1:43:42 PM | message detail
Ok I pretty much know that MM has this now. If Brawl can't make some good cuts by now then it never will.

Hooray!

ZEL-DA! ZEL-DA! ZEL-DA! ZEL-DA!
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